I have made a website that keeps track of all games played on the spaceship dm servers, and counts how many kills people get.
Here is the link mge.tf/leaderboard
Just because its fun I guess. I don't know how long I will keep it up, but at least for a while.
Also just because its fun, I'm running a tournament for the month of Jaunary, these are the rules:
Tournament Rules
1. Any game finished during the window 12/31/2022 11:59pm EST -> 1/31/2023 11:59 pm EST will count toward the tournament.
2. To be a finalist, you must be in the top 20 of total kills. This is so that to win, you must grind a decent amt.
3. The winners are the three finalists with the highest K/D.
4. 1st place $100, 2nd place $75, 3rd place $25. (paypal/venmo from me)
As of posting this, for the ~15 days the site has been running, Donovin would win because he has the highest K/D of the finalists. But Alfa/Soapy could probably surpass him if they got more kills. But there's no prize for December, tournament starts January!
I have made a website that keeps track of all games played on the [url=https://sappho.io/spaceship/]spaceship[/url] dm servers, and counts how many kills people get.
Here is the link[h] [url=https://mge.tf/leaderboard]mge.tf/leaderboard[/url][/h]
Just because its fun I guess. I don't know how long I will keep it up, but at least for a while.
Also just because its fun, I'm running a tournament for the month of Jaunary, these are the rules:
[h] Tournament Rules [/h]
1. Any game finished during the window 12/31/2022 11:59pm EST -> 1/31/2023 11:59 pm EST will count toward the tournament.
2. To be a finalist, you must be in the top 20 of total kills. This is so that to win, you must grind a decent amt.
3. The winners are the three finalists with the highest K/D.
4. 1st place $100, 2nd place $75, 3rd place $25. (paypal/venmo from me)
As of posting this, for the ~15 days the site has been running, Donovin would win because he has the highest K/D of the finalists. But Alfa/Soapy could probably surpass him if they got more kills. But there's no prize for December, tournament starts January!
Hilarious, this will be fun to keep track of
Might want to put some sort of restriction on number of players or something like that to prevent people from farming off of an empty server tho
Hilarious, this will be fun to keep track of
Might want to put some sort of restriction on number of players or something like that to prevent people from farming off of an empty server tho
PeteHilarious, this will be fun to keep track of
Might want to put some sort of restriction on number of players or something like that to prevent people from farming off of an empty server tho
True, I will add that later today
[quote=Pete]Hilarious, this will be fun to keep track of
Might want to put some sort of restriction on number of players or something like that to prevent people from farming off of an empty server tho[/quote]
True, I will add that later today
will this be for a unique time or will you do it yearly?
will this be for a unique time or will you do it yearly?
playing for kd in dm is so insane
playing for kd in dm is so insane
you have just singlehandedly ruined DM mod
you have just singlehandedly ruined DM mod
wouldn't something like dpm be a better stat here? kd is not what most people are playing for in dm, and I think most people do not like the idea of a tournament that is impossible to opt-out of incentivizing people to just bait and stuff. I do still like the idea of dm tournaments/having stats for dm though, I hope stuff like this continues to develop
wouldn't something like dpm be a better stat here? kd is not what most people are playing for in dm, and I think most people do not like the idea of a tournament that is impossible to opt-out of incentivizing people to just bait and stuff. I do still like the idea of dm tournaments/having stats for dm though, I hope stuff like this continues to develop
Good intentions but not a good idea. This will incentivize a lot of kiting/running away which will reduce quality of play. This is also why MGE tournaments are generally a bad idea (at least the 1v1 ones).
edit: chell's idea is pretty good. better than k/d.
Good intentions but not a good idea. This will incentivize a lot of kiting/running away which will reduce quality of play. This is also why MGE tournaments are generally a bad idea (at least the 1v1 ones).
edit: chell's idea is pretty good. better than k/d.
I'm open to ideas to change structure. Definitely going to switch it to average kills per round/dpm, that would be better metric. I can also limit it to just one of the four servers, but I don't want to split the playerbase too much.
it will def ruin/change dm to some extent, but it's in off season (next rgl season starts Jan 29th) so during the season it will go back to normal.
Tbh I don't think (as long as the metric is avg score not kda) it will change playstyle too much, people enjoy fighting to be #1 on the scoreboard already.
I'm open to ideas to change structure. Definitely going to switch it to average kills per round/dpm, that would be better metric. I can also limit it to just one of the four servers, but I don't want to split the playerbase too much.
it will def ruin/change dm to some extent, but it's in off season (next rgl season starts Jan 29th) so during the season it will go back to normal.
Tbh I don't think (as long as the metric is avg score not kda) it will change playstyle too much, people enjoy fighting to be #1 on the scoreboard already.
tommypeople enjoy fighting to be #1 on the scoreboard already.
Some do this for sure but I think the large majority simply use DM just to warmup before scrims. Still it might be fun to see the results for a whole month while it is still pre-season.
Is there any way to make it class specific? I can't see how this wouldn't be completely scout dominated
[quote=tommy]people enjoy fighting to be #1 on the scoreboard already.[/quote]
Some do this for sure but I think the large majority simply use DM just to warmup before scrims. Still it might be fun to see the results for a whole month while it is still pre-season.
Is there any way to make it class specific? I can't see how this wouldn't be completely scout dominated
Can't wait for Tulaman to be #1
Can't wait for Tulaman to be #1
depending on how seriously people take it, even dpm could be a bad metric, since that will incentivize people to only join a full server, instead of trying to actually start a dm server.
I think having a tournament decieded by "who played the most in the last month" is bad, but I think for the health of dm, just having whoever has the most total kills at the end, ideally split up by classes (demo soldier scout) and evenly distributing any prize like that could be best.
Not only does this have the most integrity to how dm "should" be played (ie not changing how people play the game and potentially ruining the servers cuz someone wants $20), it also serves to potentially fix one of dms biggest problems, which is the fact you can't play the game outside of a certain time period each day. If there's an incentive to play more dm, it stands to reason people will play the game outside of normal hours which will let more people enjoy dm.
Not a davidb shill.
depending on how seriously people take it, even dpm could be a bad metric, since that will incentivize people to only join a full server, instead of trying to actually start a dm server.
I think having a tournament decieded by "who played the most in the last month" is bad, but I think for the health of dm, just having whoever has the most total kills at the end, ideally split up by classes (demo soldier scout) and evenly distributing any prize like that could be best.
Not only does this have the most integrity to how dm "should" be played (ie not changing how people play the game and potentially ruining the servers cuz someone wants $20), it also serves to potentially fix one of dms biggest problems, which is the fact you can't play the game outside of a certain time period each day. If there's an incentive to play more dm, it stands to reason people will play the game outside of normal hours which will let more people enjoy dm.
Not a davidb shill.
rewarding highest record number of points / class is an option
to get a lot of points you have to shoot at the guys
though i guess it could be gamed lol
rewarding highest record number of points / class is an option
to get a lot of points you have to shoot at the guys
though i guess it could be gamed lol
can you do this mid season instead
just to ruin DM for an entire season
i think it would be really funny
i'll add 125 buckaridoos to the pool if you do
can you do this mid season instead
just to ruin DM for an entire season
i think it would be really funny
i'll add 125 buckaridoos to the pool if you do
Should be based on kills per minute but weighted for number of players per team and damage per frag.
Should be based on kills per minute but weighted for number of players per team and damage per frag.
does no one else play dm just to vibe to music and shoot enemies (and not have to deal with random crits or respawn times)
does no one else play dm just to vibe to music and shoot enemies (and not have to deal with random crits or respawn times)
as others have said its def better to reward total stats just like how esea pugs used to give small prizes for most ubers/kills/whatever
highest dpm or kills per minute is a bad metric cause it depends so heavily on the people in the server, and could be gamed by someone getting ppl to feed them and then never playing again
as others have said its def better to reward total stats just like how esea pugs used to give small prizes for most ubers/kills/whatever
highest dpm or kills per minute is a bad metric cause it depends so heavily on the people in the server, and could be gamed by someone getting ppl to feed them and then never playing again
Alright see u guys in New Years dm be sharp
Alright see u guys in New Years dm be sharp
will cheaters be allowed to play?
will cheaters be allowed to play?
The rankings are now split between classes. In order to not split the pot 3 ways, there is a scoring system to find the 3 overall winners.
You get 3 points for being in first place, 2 for being second or third, and 1 point for being in fourth, fifth, or sixth place.
There are also two metrics equally weighted: total kills, and average kills in a round. You have to grind, but you also have to do consistently well to win.
For example right now, DavidB has most overall kills on scout (+3), most overall kills on demo (+3), third most kills on soldier (+2), second highest kills per round on soldier (+2), highest kills per round on scout (+3), and fifth most kills per round on demo (+1), therefore he has 14 points.
New rules:
- new scoring system
- must be in top 20 total kills to be considered for top avg kills.
- a round will only be counted if there were 8 unique players that round.
- if you see any evidence of obvious feeding/cheesing/hacking, send evidence and I will exclude them from tournament
- if you switch classes mid round, only the kills on class with the most kills is counted
- DM#4, no class restrictions is excluded.
- If you want to be excluded, dm me on tftv
- New end date: 1/15/2023 11:59 EST The entire month seems too long.....
- tiebreaker (if necessary) will be who can kill the most bots in tr_rocket_shooting2 in 10 minutes, sv_cheats 0, any class
check out the updated website (will polish when I get more time). The scoring system is probably not perfect, but its just an experiment after all...
good luck!
The rankings are now split between classes. In order to not split the pot 3 ways, there is a scoring system to find the 3 overall winners.
You get 3 points for being in first place, 2 for being second or third, and 1 point for being in fourth, fifth, or sixth place.
There are also two metrics equally weighted: total kills, and average kills in a round. You have to grind, but you also have to do consistently well to win.
For example right now, DavidB has most overall kills on scout (+3), most overall kills on demo (+3), third most kills on soldier (+2), second highest kills per round on soldier (+2), highest kills per round on scout (+3), and fifth most kills per round on demo (+1), therefore he has 14 points.
New rules:
[olist]
[*] new scoring system
[*] must be in top 20 total kills to be considered for top avg kills.
[*] a round will only be counted if there were 8 unique players that round.
[*] if you see any evidence of obvious feeding/cheesing/hacking, send evidence and I will exclude them from tournament
[*] if you switch classes mid round, only the kills on class with the most kills is counted
[*] DM#4, no class restrictions is excluded.
[*] If you want to be excluded, dm me on tftv
[*] New end date[b]: 1/15/2023 11:59 EST[/b] The entire month seems too long.....
[*] tiebreaker (if necessary) will be who can kill the most bots in tr_rocket_shooting2 in 10 minutes, sv_cheats 0, any class
[/olist]
check out the updated website (will polish when I get more time). The scoring system is probably not perfect, but its just an experiment after all...
good luck!
davidb always melee dueling, baiting people into the train on freight, locking down the tunnel on demo on turbine, etc. and it's still not even close https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/conker/images/4/4d/ConkerCashEyes.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20111229210918
davidb always melee dueling, baiting people into the train on freight, locking down the tunnel on demo on turbine, etc. and it's still not even close https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/conker/images/4/4d/ConkerCashEyes.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20111229210918
it is officially halfway through the tournament. looks like davidb has a solid lead through grinding and also very consistent KPR. habib and kobe battling for 2nd place, and its very unclear who will win. There are definitely some contenders for a late comeback up to 3rd place if they decide to start grinding....
it is officially halfway through the tournament. looks like davidb has a solid lead through grinding and also very consistent KPR. habib and kobe battling for 2nd place, and its very unclear who will win. There are definitely some contenders for a late comeback up to 3rd place if they decide to start grinding....
The site has been broken for the last three days, it is now fixed. Sorry about that, my database now has 250k kills listed in it, which is more than I expected, but I upped my capacity.
Also because its been broken, I'm extending the end date by two days, the new end date is 1/17/2023 11:59 EST
edit: also, all demos from during when the site was down are still counted.
The site has been broken for the last three days, it is now fixed. Sorry about that, my database now has 250k kills listed in it, which is more than I expected, but I upped my capacity.
Also because its been broken, I'm extending the end date by two days, the new end date is [b] 1/17/2023 11:59 EST[/b]
edit: also, all demos from during when the site was down are still counted.
Jwdavidb always melee dueling, baiting people into the train on freight, locking down the tunnel on demo on turbine, etc. and it's still not even close https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/conker/images/4/4d/ConkerCashEyes.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20111229210918
he needs the 100$ its okay
[quote=Jw]davidb always melee dueling, baiting people into the train on freight, locking down the tunnel on demo on turbine, etc. and it's still not even close https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/conker/images/4/4d/ConkerCashEyes.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20111229210918[/quote]
he needs the 100$ its okay
fun project, no CSS on my side, dunno if intended
fun project, no CSS on my side, dunno if intended
How goes moderation on stats regarding under 8 players?
How goes moderation on stats regarding under 8 players?
BrockHow goes moderation on stats regarding under 8 players?
no points from the demo count if there's less than 8 players in the server
Twiggyfun project, no CSS on my side, dunno if intended
ty! it's intended
[quote=Brock]How goes moderation on stats regarding under 8 players?[/quote]
no points from the demo count if there's less than 8 players in the server
[quote=Twiggy]fun project, no CSS on my side, dunno if intended[/quote]
ty! it's intended
scratchhcan i be unbanned
[quote=scratchh]can i be unbanned[/quote]
scratchhcan i be unbanned
yea
[quote=scratchh]can i be unbanned[/quote]
yea