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Trying to prove to RGL that I'm not an alt account
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Initially, I waited nearly two months to be verified on the RGL Discord so that I could continue playing PUGs outside of TF2CC. After 50+ days, my account was banned on both the Discord and RGL as a whole for being an "alt account."

I have no other account associated with RGL or even Steam; the Steam account I signed up with is the only Steam account I own. My previous gaming experiences came from consoles and the Battle.net launcher (for Overwatch/OW2, World of Warcraft, etc.)

At first, the admins at TF2CC attempted to help me out with my predicament so that I can play in the upcoming Newbie Cup (I managed to get in), but then I was automatically marked as "Community Banned" BECAUSE of the RGL ban, so I can no longer PUG or play any matches associated with them until the RGL ban is dealt with.

I have no other means of contacting RGL other than appeals, and I've already sent in two. I fear that if I send another appeal form, I'll be marked as spam and they won't even bother looking at my case.

Is there another way to directly contact RGL to maybe get this sorted out before official matches start for the Newbie Cup?

I'd wait for them to respond to the appeal(s), but judging by how long it took for them to respond to my attempt at Discord verification (albeit resulting in a ban), I'm worried I won't get a response until AFTER the cup.

Any help would be appreciated.

Initially, I waited nearly two months to be verified on the RGL Discord so that I could continue playing PUGs outside of TF2CC. After 50+ days, my account was banned on both the Discord and RGL as a whole for being an "alt account."

I have no other account associated with RGL or even Steam; the Steam account I signed up with is the only Steam account I own. My previous gaming experiences came from consoles and the Battle.net launcher (for Overwatch/OW2, World of Warcraft, etc.)

At first, the admins at TF2CC attempted to help me out with my predicament so that I can play in the upcoming Newbie Cup (I managed to get in), but then I was automatically marked as "Community Banned" BECAUSE of the RGL ban, so I can no longer PUG or play any matches associated with them until the RGL ban is dealt with.

I have no other means of contacting RGL other than appeals, and I've already sent in two. I fear that if I send another appeal form, I'll be marked as spam and they won't even bother looking at my case.

Is there another way to directly contact RGL to maybe get this sorted out before official matches start for the Newbie Cup?

I'd wait for them to respond to the appeal(s), but judging by how long it took for them to respond to my attempt at Discord verification (albeit resulting in a ban), I'm worried I won't get a response until AFTER the cup.

Any help would be appreciated.
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#2
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Well your name on tftv is NewTF2Player they should unban you based on that

Well your name on tftv is NewTF2Player they should unban you based on that
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#3
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you told me and a bunch of other people you were pugging with that you used to play competitive overwatch, and I asked you why your discord was made last month if you used to play competitive overwatch and you said your last discord was "confidential"

you told me and a bunch of other people you were pugging with that you used to play competitive overwatch, and I asked you why your discord was made last month if you used to play competitive overwatch and you said your last discord was "confidential"
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Seinfeldyou told me and a bunch of other people you were pugging with that you used to play competitive overwatch, and I asked you why your discord was made last month if you used to play competitive overwatch and you said your last discord was "confidential"

That Discord has nothing to do with TF2, RGL, or TF2CC. I'm trying to avoid witch hunting from the other gaming communities I'm involved with so I can peacefully enjoy TF2. There are plenty of accounts active across these communities that were also made quite recently on Discord.

[quote=Seinfeld]you told me and a bunch of other people you were pugging with that you used to play competitive overwatch, and I asked you why your discord was made last month if you used to play competitive overwatch and you said your last discord was "confidential"[/quote]

That Discord has nothing to do with TF2, RGL, or TF2CC. I'm trying to avoid witch hunting from the other gaming communities I'm involved with so I can peacefully enjoy TF2. There are plenty of accounts active across these communities that were also made quite recently on Discord.
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hannahWell your name on tftv is NewTF2Player they should unban you based on that

True and factual.

In all seriousness, I think I kinda messed up with the name of my account (which is literally just New TF2 Player/ New Team Fortress 2 Player), but I honestly don't think that my username should've been in consideration for determining if I'm an alt account or not considering that ANYBODY could've been using that alias.

[quote=hannah]Well your name on tftv is NewTF2Player they should unban you based on that[/quote]

True and factual.

In all seriousness, I think I kinda messed up with the name of my account (which is literally just New TF2 Player/ New Team Fortress 2 Player), but I honestly don't think that my username should've been in consideration for determining if I'm an alt account or not considering that ANYBODY could've been using that alias.
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#6
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NewTF2Player
That Discord has nothing to do with TF2, RGL, or TF2CC. I'm trying to avoid witch hunting from the other gaming communities I'm involved with so I can peacefully enjoy TF2.

Wait a minute..

[quote=NewTF2Player]

That Discord has nothing to do with TF2, RGL, or TF2CC. I'm trying to avoid witch hunting from the other gaming communities I'm involved with so I can peacefully enjoy TF2.[/quote]

Wait a minute..
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#7
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This is actually a really funny thread.

This is actually a really funny thread.
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#8
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Was this guy the Diddy of Overwatch?

Was this guy the Diddy of Overwatch?
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#9
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NewTF2PlayerSeinfeldyou told me and a bunch of other people you were pugging with that you used to play competitive overwatch, and I asked you why your discord was made last month if you used to play competitive overwatch and you said your last discord was "confidential"
That Discord has nothing to do with TF2, RGL, or TF2CC. I'm trying to avoid witch hunting from the other gaming communities I'm involved with so I can peacefully enjoy TF2. There are plenty of accounts active across these communities that were also made quite recently on Discord.

let me get this straight, you linked an alt discord to your brand new, 160hr tf2 playtime steam account with only tf2 and SFM on it, on RGL and you expect to be cleared as not an alt? and you refuse to disclose what your previous tag was because other gaming communities have kicked you out for reasons you don't want to elaborate on? are you a pedophile or something

[quote=NewTF2Player][quote=Seinfeld]you told me and a bunch of other people you were pugging with that you used to play competitive overwatch, and I asked you why your discord was made last month if you used to play competitive overwatch and you said your last discord was "confidential"[/quote]

That Discord has nothing to do with TF2, RGL, or TF2CC. I'm trying to avoid witch hunting from the other gaming communities I'm involved with so I can peacefully enjoy TF2. There are plenty of accounts active across these communities that were also made quite recently on Discord.[/quote]
let me get this straight, you linked an alt discord to your brand new, 160hr tf2 playtime steam account with only tf2 and SFM on it, on RGL and you expect to be cleared as not an alt? and you refuse to disclose what your previous tag was because other gaming communities have kicked you out for reasons you don't want to elaborate on? are you a pedophile or something
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pajaroNewTF2PlayerSeinfeldyou told me and a bunch of other people you were pugging with that you used to play competitive overwatch, and I asked you why your discord was made last month if you used to play competitive overwatch and you said your last discord was "confidential"
That Discord has nothing to do with TF2, RGL, or TF2CC. I'm trying to avoid witch hunting from the other gaming communities I'm involved with so I can peacefully enjoy TF2. There are plenty of accounts active across these communities that were also made quite recently on Discord.
let me get this straight, you linked an alt discord to your brand new, 160hr tf2 playtime steam account with only tf2 and SFM on it, on RGL and you expect to be cleared as not an alt? and you refuse to disclose what your previous tag was because other gaming communities have kicked you out for reasons you don't want to elaborate on? are you a pedophile or something

No lmao I have not been kicked out of those communities. I still actively participate in them (except maybe Overwatch, that game is just ass compared to this one). My previous Discord and current btag literally have "watch2" (like Overwatch 2) at the end of it, and I figured a new alias entering the scene would be more appropriate than that.

Also guys, please don't call me a pedophile. It genuinely hurts because I'm a teacher in my dayjob. Leave the kids alone.

If it means anything, my hours are nearly at 400, not 160.

[quote=pajaro][quote=NewTF2Player][quote=Seinfeld]you told me and a bunch of other people you were pugging with that you used to play competitive overwatch, and I asked you why your discord was made last month if you used to play competitive overwatch and you said your last discord was "confidential"[/quote]

That Discord has nothing to do with TF2, RGL, or TF2CC. I'm trying to avoid witch hunting from the other gaming communities I'm involved with so I can peacefully enjoy TF2. There are plenty of accounts active across these communities that were also made quite recently on Discord.[/quote]
let me get this straight, you linked an alt discord to your brand new, 160hr tf2 playtime steam account with only tf2 and SFM on it, on RGL and you expect to be cleared as not an alt? and you refuse to disclose what your previous tag was because other gaming communities have kicked you out for reasons you don't want to elaborate on? are you a pedophile or something[/quote]

No lmao I have not been kicked out of those communities. I still actively participate in them (except maybe Overwatch, that game is just ass compared to this one). My previous Discord and current btag literally have "watch2" (like Overwatch 2) at the end of it, and I figured a new alias entering the scene would be more appropriate than that.

Also guys, please don't call me a pedophile. It genuinely hurts because I'm a teacher in my dayjob. Leave the kids alone.

If it means anything, my hours are nearly at 400, not 160.
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#11
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NewTF2PlayerpajaroNewTF2PlayerSeinfeldyou told me and a bunch of other people you were pugging with that you used to play competitive overwatch, and I asked you why your discord was made last month if you used to play competitive overwatch and you said your last discord was "confidential"
That Discord has nothing to do with TF2, RGL, or TF2CC. I'm trying to avoid witch hunting from the other gaming communities I'm involved with so I can peacefully enjoy TF2. There are plenty of accounts active across these communities that were also made quite recently on Discord.
let me get this straight, you linked an alt discord to your brand new, 160hr tf2 playtime steam account with only tf2 and SFM on it, on RGL and you expect to be cleared as not an alt? and you refuse to disclose what your previous tag was because other gaming communities have kicked you out for reasons you don't want to elaborate on? are you a pedophile or something

No lmao I have not been kicked out of those communities. I still actively participate in them (except maybe Overwatch, that game is just ass compared to this one). My previous Discord and current btag literally have "watch2" (like Overwatch 2) at the end of it, and I figured a new alias entering the scene would be more appropriate than that.

Also guys, please don't call me a pedophile. It genuinely hurts because I'm a teacher in my dayjob. Leave the kids alone.

If it means anything, my hours are nearly at 400, not 160.

Then why are you scared of letting ppl know your actual discord tag? What "witch hunt" are you running from?

Also regarding your hours, you have 380 on record but only 160 of playtime in your game stats. 134/160 of which is the last two weeks.

[quote=NewTF2Player][quote=pajaro][quote=NewTF2Player][quote=Seinfeld]you told me and a bunch of other people you were pugging with that you used to play competitive overwatch, and I asked you why your discord was made last month if you used to play competitive overwatch and you said your last discord was "confidential"[/quote]

That Discord has nothing to do with TF2, RGL, or TF2CC. I'm trying to avoid witch hunting from the other gaming communities I'm involved with so I can peacefully enjoy TF2. There are plenty of accounts active across these communities that were also made quite recently on Discord.[/quote]
let me get this straight, you linked an alt discord to your brand new, 160hr tf2 playtime steam account with only tf2 and SFM on it, on RGL and you expect to be cleared as not an alt? and you refuse to disclose what your previous tag was because other gaming communities have kicked you out for reasons you don't want to elaborate on? are you a pedophile or something[/quote]

No lmao I have not been kicked out of those communities. I still actively participate in them (except maybe Overwatch, that game is just ass compared to this one). My previous Discord and current btag literally have "watch2" (like Overwatch 2) at the end of it, and I figured a new alias entering the scene would be more appropriate than that.

Also guys, please don't call me a pedophile. It genuinely hurts because I'm a teacher in my dayjob. Leave the kids alone.

If it means anything, my hours are nearly at 400, not 160.[/quote]
Then why are you scared of letting ppl know your actual discord tag? What "witch hunt" are you running from?

Also regarding your hours, you have 380 on record but only 160 of playtime in your game stats. 134/160 of which is the last two weeks.
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pajaroNewTF2PlayerpajaroNewTF2PlayerSeinfeldyou told me and a bunch of other people you were pugging with that you used to play competitive overwatch, and I asked you why your discord was made last month if you used to play competitive overwatch and you said your last discord was "confidential"
That Discord has nothing to do with TF2, RGL, or TF2CC. I'm trying to avoid witch hunting from the other gaming communities I'm involved with so I can peacefully enjoy TF2. There are plenty of accounts active across these communities that were also made quite recently on Discord.
let me get this straight, you linked an alt discord to your brand new, 160hr tf2 playtime steam account with only tf2 and SFM on it, on RGL and you expect to be cleared as not an alt? and you refuse to disclose what your previous tag was because other gaming communities have kicked you out for reasons you don't want to elaborate on? are you a pedophile or something

No lmao I have not been kicked out of those communities. I still actively participate in them (except maybe Overwatch, that game is just ass compared to this one). My previous Discord and current btag literally have "watch2" (like Overwatch 2) at the end of it, and I figured a new alias entering the scene would be more appropriate than that.

Also guys, please don't call me a pedophile. It genuinely hurts because I'm a teacher in my dayjob. Leave the kids alone.

If it means anything, my hours are nearly at 400, not 160.
Then why are you scared of letting ppl know your actual discord tag? What "witch hunt" are you running from?

Also regarding your hours, you have 380 on record but only 160 of playtime in your game stats. 134/160 of which is the last two weeks.

Genuinely curious, where is this info being pulled from? Because I know a lot of my hours are in other gamemodes like Casual and MvM, but I swear I have more active hours than 160. If you could link me the resource, I'd actually appreciate it.

The "witch hunt" in question is mainly from the OW2 community (i.e.; "Why are you playing TF2? That game is dogshit. Just play OW2.") This fear of being ostracized by these people is real because I started playing TF2 on my new (and first) Steam account, forgot to turn off game activity on Discord, and immediately got lambasted by OW2 players. I just don't want to deal with that shit going forwards.

[quote=pajaro][quote=NewTF2Player][quote=pajaro][quote=NewTF2Player][quote=Seinfeld]you told me and a bunch of other people you were pugging with that you used to play competitive overwatch, and I asked you why your discord was made last month if you used to play competitive overwatch and you said your last discord was "confidential"[/quote]

That Discord has nothing to do with TF2, RGL, or TF2CC. I'm trying to avoid witch hunting from the other gaming communities I'm involved with so I can peacefully enjoy TF2. There are plenty of accounts active across these communities that were also made quite recently on Discord.[/quote]
let me get this straight, you linked an alt discord to your brand new, 160hr tf2 playtime steam account with only tf2 and SFM on it, on RGL and you expect to be cleared as not an alt? and you refuse to disclose what your previous tag was because other gaming communities have kicked you out for reasons you don't want to elaborate on? are you a pedophile or something[/quote]

No lmao I have not been kicked out of those communities. I still actively participate in them (except maybe Overwatch, that game is just ass compared to this one). My previous Discord and current btag literally have "watch2" (like Overwatch 2) at the end of it, and I figured a new alias entering the scene would be more appropriate than that.

Also guys, please don't call me a pedophile. It genuinely hurts because I'm a teacher in my dayjob. Leave the kids alone.

If it means anything, my hours are nearly at 400, not 160.[/quote]
Then why are you scared of letting ppl know your actual discord tag? What "witch hunt" are you running from?

Also regarding your hours, you have 380 on record but only 160 of playtime in your game stats. 134/160 of which is the last two weeks.[/quote]

Genuinely curious, where is this info being pulled from? Because I know a lot of my hours are in other gamemodes like Casual and MvM, but I swear I have more active hours than 160. If you could link me the resource, I'd actually appreciate it.

The "witch hunt" in question is mainly from the OW2 community (i.e.; "Why are you playing TF2? That game is dogshit. Just play OW2.") This fear of being ostracized by these people is real because I started playing TF2 on my new (and first) Steam account, forgot to turn off game activity on Discord, and immediately got lambasted by OW2 players. I just don't want to deal with that shit going forwards.
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#13
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https://i.imgur.com/JyqmStb.png

[img]https://i.imgur.com/JyqmStb.png[/img]
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#14
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pajarohttps://i.imgur.com/JyqmStb.png

What's the website?

[quote=pajaro][img]https://i.imgur.com/JyqmStb.png[/img][/quote]

What's the website?
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#15
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dis u?
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199075069556

https://i.imgur.com/OzFAZiv.png

dis u?
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199075069556
[img]https://i.imgur.com/OzFAZiv.png[/img]
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#16
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NewTF2PlayerI'm trying to avoid witch hunting from the other gaming communities I'm involved with so I can peacefully enjoy TF2.

If only there were tools to make it easier to protect your privacy or block these people out.

https://i.imgur.com/4XpdVy9.png

[quote=NewTF2Player]I'm trying to avoid witch hunting from the other gaming communities I'm involved with so I can peacefully enjoy TF2.[/quote]
If only there were tools to make it easier to protect your privacy or block these people out.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/4XpdVy9.png[/img]
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#17
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lmfao
nice profile NewTF2Player

https://i.imgur.com/DiXjNvU.png

https://i.imgur.com/DrqZbKU.png

2nd pic are name changes on the steam acc I posted

lmfao
nice profile NewTF2Player
[img]https://i.imgur.com/DiXjNvU.png[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/DrqZbKU.png[/img]
2nd pic are name changes on the steam acc I posted
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#18
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NewTF2PlayerAlso guys, please don't call me a pedophile. It genuinely hurts because I'm a teacher in my dayjob. Leave the kids alone.

Teachers are signing up for RGL #SAVEOURFUTURE

[quote=NewTF2Player]
Also guys, please don't call me a pedophile. It genuinely hurts because I'm a teacher in my dayjob. Leave the kids alone.

[/quote]

Teachers are signing up for RGL #SAVEOURFUTURE
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#19
14 Frags +

If u still here u forgot 1 more account to private
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199183171982
Shame if u lost ur $2k inventory :(

Good thing u can move them to ur trading bot!
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199235704407

If u still here u forgot 1 more account to private
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199183171982
Shame if u lost ur $2k inventory :(

Good thing u can move them to ur trading bot!
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199235704407
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#20
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https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199734024926

ive played pugs with him before and saw he had expensive shit in his inventory and it's gone now LOL

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199734024926

ive played pugs with him before and saw he had expensive shit in his inventory and it's gone now LOL
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#21
13 Frags +

is he even good enough for an alt to be sandbagging

is he even good enough for an alt to be sandbagging
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#22
13 Frags +

alright, he is an alt with a lot of other accounts, but why is this guy trying so hard to hide who he actually is? whats the point?

alright, he is an alt with a lot of other accounts, but why is this guy trying so hard to hide who he actually is? whats the point?
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#23
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dbkalright, he is an alt with a lot of other accounts, but why is this guy trying so hard to hide who he actually is? whats the point?

money, fame, power, everything you could want

[quote=dbk]alright, he is an alt with a lot of other accounts, but why is this guy trying so hard to hide who he actually is? whats the point?[/quote]
money, fame, power, everything you could want
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#24
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dbkalright, he is an alt with a lot of other accounts, but why is this guy trying so hard to hide who he actually is? whats the point?

Cheat on alts so main account never gets punished (prolly still cheats on main account but maybe not as obvious)

https://i.imgur.com/h7YLw3v.png

[quote=dbk]alright, he is an alt with a lot of other accounts, but why is this guy trying so hard to hide who he actually is? whats the point?[/quote]
Cheat on alts so main account never gets punished (prolly still cheats on main account but maybe not as obvious)
[img]https://i.imgur.com/h7YLw3v.png[/img]
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#25
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https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198856496005

lol, here's another

[url=https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198856496005]https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198856496005[/url]

lol, here's another
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#26
serveme.tf
14 Frags +

Assuming the previous listed alts are legit, you guys forgot about
76561198811827228
76561198022521402

So back to the subject of this topic, I think you'll have difficulty proving to RGL you're not an alt.

Assuming the previous listed alts are legit, you guys forgot about
[url=https://logs.tf/profile/76561198811827228]76561198811827228[/url]
[url=https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile?p=76561198022521402]76561198022521402[/url]

So back to the subject of this topic, I think you'll have difficulty proving to RGL you're not an alt.
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#27
17 Frags +

i think this is the part where you delete your account and try again later

i think this is the part where you delete your account and try again later
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#28
5 Frags +

Stalking freaks

Stalking freaks
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#29
3 Frags +

honest to god you guys finding his alts is like reddit witch hunting good shit lmao

honest to god you guys finding his alts is like reddit witch hunting good shit lmao
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#30
7 Frags +

Some of these players never pugged with you before, I've pugged with you and I'm gonna give you my two cents. No judging or anything. I've already said this before but I will make it more complete.

First off, your username is just too suspicious. It's such an easy name for an alt to use. Your steam account is also too new. It's so new that anyone would immediately suspect you as an alt. Not to mention that you almost immediately pivot into RGL, the competitive community of tf2 after being so new to the game. It's not something a lot of new players aim for.

Some people think you are loz alt, but I highly doubt it. loz is quite respected in the trading community, but the majority of your items were indeed sold to his trading bots. Plus the traders could care less about RGL.

All these activities make you look sus, but there's more. You sunk a lot of money into it when you barely played the game at all which just seems a bit suspicious. Not to mention you're a bit too good at the game. I'm ngl, I saw your market garden clips. They're good, but even I myself with 800 hours cannot hit a speedshot of that margin. Most players at this level simply cannot rocket jump or sticky jump at your level but you only started at June or July? It's just a bit sus. You're easily outperforming people with 1k hours in the game, and even if you did have OW background, that's just a bit crazy.

I will not witch hunt or partake in anything, but all these things def make it seem like it's an alt. Who knows if RGL has a way to track ip or something and reveals something secret, I genuienly don't know, but your accoount was just too suspicious. Privating your profile only made it worse ngl. Not to mention that after all this, you just completely gave up on this account. If it was me, I would just go on playing casual.

Your reluctance to reveal your old discord account is just very suspicious as well. You can block DMs, and prevent the witch hunting from happening.

This all being said, when I pugged with you, you did seem chill. If you are indeed not an alt, then I can only say sorry, but if you are truly an alt, then shame on you. Peace out :)

Some of these players never pugged with you before, I've pugged with you and I'm gonna give you my two cents. No judging or anything. I've already said this before but I will make it more complete.

First off, your username is just too suspicious. It's such an easy name for an alt to use. Your steam account is also too new. It's so new that anyone would immediately suspect you as an alt. Not to mention that you almost immediately pivot into RGL, the competitive community of tf2 after being so new to the game. It's not something a lot of new players aim for.

Some people think you are loz alt, but I highly doubt it. loz is quite respected in the trading community, but the majority of your items were indeed sold to his trading bots. Plus the traders could care less about RGL.

All these activities make you look sus, but there's more. You sunk a lot of money into it when you barely played the game at all which just seems a bit suspicious. Not to mention you're a bit too good at the game. I'm ngl, I saw your market garden clips. They're good, but even I myself with 800 hours cannot hit a speedshot of that margin. Most players at this level simply cannot rocket jump or sticky jump at your level but you only started at June or July? It's just a bit sus. You're easily outperforming people with 1k hours in the game, and even if you did have OW background, that's just a bit crazy.

I will not witch hunt or partake in anything, but all these things def make it seem like it's an alt. Who knows if RGL has a way to track ip or something and reveals something secret, I genuienly don't know, but your accoount was just too suspicious. Privating your profile only made it worse ngl. Not to mention that after all this, you just completely gave up on this account. If it was me, I would just go on playing casual.

Your reluctance to reveal your old discord account is just very suspicious as well. You can block DMs, and prevent the witch hunting from happening.

This all being said, when I pugged with you, you did seem chill. If you are indeed not an alt, then I can only say sorry, but if you are truly an alt, then shame on you. Peace out :)
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