https://tiermaker.com/create/sixes-gamestate-tier-list-18025782
https://imgur.com/a/TMshneM
I gave equal weight to fun and skill when I ranked them
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tf2 as a whole is beautiful lets be honest
tf2 as a whole is beautiful lets be honest
also complaining about sniper literally just outs you as a noob ngl
also complaining about sniper literally just outs you as a noob ngl
kawaalso complaining about sniper literally just outs you as a noob ngl
nah I feel like you can whine about something being unfun while still understanding it’s downfalls
[quote=kawa]also complaining about sniper literally just outs you as a noob ngl[/quote]
nah I feel like you can whine about something being unfun while still understanding it’s downfalls
edited out you defending playing pyro. pussy. stand on business
edited out you defending playing pyro. pussy. stand on business
My flame bait (lol) regarding pyro was unnecessary. I obviously defend playing pyro im one of the only people with the balls to even try it. But dont worry guys, it goes in le f tier on the gamestate tierlist
My flame bait (lol) regarding pyro was unnecessary. I obviously defend playing pyro im one of the only people with the balls to even try it. But dont worry guys, it goes in le f tier on the gamestate tierlist
serious discourse about 6s in 2025 is posting "tier lists" about "gamestates." when are we gonna have actual discussions about the issues in this game
also
kawaalso complaining about sniper literally just outs you as a noob ngl
sniper is aids. half of the community recognizes that it's aids, and the other half of the community who says shit like "complaining about sniper outs you as a noob" wants sniper to stay in 6s so they have easy gameplay with the braindead class
and i dont care if sniper has good skill expression, yes its impressive to have good aim, but fundamentally sniper is just too powerful for 6s play. you can always say stuff like "both teams can snipe" but no one has ever enjoyed playing with a sniper, against a sniper, or in a sniper mirror
imo the game will be 10x better if sniper gets banned but it will never happen because rgl puts literally every decision up to a poll and the moron scout archetype accounts for too many players and subsequently votes in this community
serious discourse about 6s in 2025 is posting "tier lists" about "gamestates." when are we gonna have actual discussions about the issues in this game
also
[quote=kawa]also complaining about sniper literally just outs you as a noob ngl[/quote]
sniper is aids. half of the community recognizes that it's aids, and the other half of the community who says shit like "complaining about sniper outs you as a noob" wants sniper to stay in 6s so they have easy gameplay with the braindead class
and i dont care if sniper has good skill expression, yes its impressive to have good aim, but fundamentally sniper is just too powerful for 6s play. you can always say stuff like "both teams can snipe" but no one has ever enjoyed playing with a sniper, against a sniper, or in a sniper mirror
imo the game will be 10x better if sniper gets banned but it will never happen because rgl puts literally every decision up to a poll and the moron scout archetype accounts for too many players and subsequently votes in this community
loafeserious discourse about 6s in 2025 is posting "tier lists" about "gamestates." when are we gonna have actual discussions about the issues in this game
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/01/08/12/jadensmith.jpg?quality=75&width=768&crop=3%3A2%2Csmart&auto=webp
[quote=loafe]serious discourse about 6s in 2025 is posting "tier lists" about "gamestates." when are we gonna have actual discussions about the issues in this game[/quote]
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loafe
this is all fair and I'd definitely agree that it's one of the stronger classes but it strikes me as more of a map/meta problem than a game problem. I do think you could nerf sniper to only do 140 with bodyshots or something so you aren't forced to constantly blind pop
it's just generally speaking i think the meta is super underdeveloped and looking at tf2 as anything less than a sum of its parts seems silly to me if you actually enjoy the game... the dynamic between the classes is literally the whole point of the game and it's beautifully designed or else we wouldn't be playing it
[quote=loafe][/quote]
this is all fair and I'd definitely agree that it's one of the stronger classes but it strikes me as more of a map/meta problem than a game problem. I do think you could nerf sniper to only do 140 with bodyshots or something so you aren't forced to constantly blind pop
it's just generally speaking i think the meta is super underdeveloped and looking at tf2 as anything less than a sum of its parts seems silly to me if you actually enjoy the game... the dynamic between the classes is literally the whole point of the game and it's beautifully designed or else we wouldn't be playing it
sniper is S tier fun Fun if i'm the sniper and Not Fun if i'm not sniper
sniper is S tier fun Fun if i'm the sniper and Not Fun if i'm not sniper
i will admit as well that i was feeling a bit spicy and it's a little silly to come in here basically saying you're not allowed to have opinions about sniper... it just personally never really bothered me i mean demoman can literally blow up an entire team from across the map without even looking at them
i will admit as well that i was feeling a bit spicy and it's a little silly to come in here basically saying you're not allowed to have opinions about sniper... it just personally never really bothered me i mean demoman can literally blow up an entire team from across the map without even looking at them
you're way too good and have played way too long to think classes like pyro and sniper are any fun at all
you're way too good and have played way too long to think classes like pyro and sniper are any fun at all
D: Clearing traps
nothing more aggravating to me than going around a corner super awkwardly and then playing kovaaks to clear traps, which completely telegraphs our push and makes us super easy to kite, while also forcing to stare at a god damn wall. If there was to ever be a spiritual successor to 6v6 tf2 the first thing i would want redesigned is sticky traps.
D: Clearing traps
nothing more aggravating to me than going around a corner super awkwardly and then playing kovaaks to clear traps, which completely telegraphs our push and makes us super easy to kite, while also forcing to stare at a god damn wall. If there was to ever be a spiritual successor to 6v6 tf2 the first thing i would want redesigned is sticky traps.
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kawait just personally never really bothered me i mean demoman can literally blow up an entire team from across the map without even looking at them
this is what happens to ur brain if u play at the exact same skill level for 10 years everyone. let this be a warning to u all.
[quote=kawa]it just personally never really bothered me i mean demoman can literally blow up an entire team from across the map without even looking at them[/quote]
this is what happens to ur brain if u play at the exact same skill level for 10 years everyone. let this be a warning to u all.
if not enjoying playing with/against a sniper makes me a noob, then i never want to be pro
if not enjoying playing with/against a sniper makes me a noob, then i never want to be pro
Idk why i even backtracked on such a harmless post lol the only thing im getting from this thread is i should learn sniper
Im sorry to any sniper complainers i hurt the feelings of.. :(
Idk why i even backtracked on such a harmless post lol the only thing im getting from this thread is i should learn sniper
Im sorry to any sniper complainers i hurt the feelings of.. :(