does sniper need a buff

pls no

I think scout needs more buffs

EDIT: it's a joke

I was playing a pub earlier and an enemy sniper threw a jarate at me when I was on fire and it extinguished the fire, can this happen?

strongest class in the game needing buffs

So piss can save everyone's lives now...

Demo's getting buffed?

It's an interesting idea, definitely no on the Milk since then the passive scout could use it to set a play up (since the healing bonus would give his teammates an advantage).

The Jarate might be plausible, since you'd have to offclass to use it it may balance out.

Does anybody know if the healing rate affects how quickly the Jarate/Milk effect is removed from the affected individual?

These aren't exactly buffs. You've a very low chance of covering more than a single target and even then you need a decent throw. They're playmaking weapons you get in exchange for survivability ones (SMG/pistol) or in scout's case a mobility one (winger).

being able to put out the most damage per second doesn't make you the strongest class in the game

I thought that the fire effect went away, but still damaged you and critted.

The change is really annoying if you use it on teammates to extinguish fire, some people might not be affected even if they're right next together.

plz.. do enlighten

sniper in 6s hardly needs a survivability weapon. sniper is already a playmaking class he doesn't need a no skill lob weapon like jarate

Fragga would like a word with you.

when exactly did this happen? can someone link me to some patch notes?

having that, mixed with some of the best mobility and still having chunky enough health to deal with self-damage, on the other hand, does.

jarate's kinda lazy in terms of playstyle + design in 6s imo, the less people you need to use on it the less strategy involved and it just barely works well in HL to begin with

i was wondering why my jarate's weren't hitting off of stairs, it felt like you literally had to direct headshot to piss on ppl

if healthpacks and medigun healing removed jarate faster, i would be fine with it being added to the list after this change and that one

medigun already does

i mean even faster

It wasn't in the patch notes. I saw it on Spuf. None of us noticed because we barely use the weapon and none of them noticed because most of them are idiots I guess.

I disagree, the SMG puts a lot of work in for a frequent sniper. The point of the change is that it now takes a much more accurate toss for the Sniper to get significant results.

I only posted this here because it's an unreported nerf to a weapon we banned 4 or 5 seasons ago.

I don't see why the jarate/mad milk is banned, and the buff banner/concheror/other soldier weapons like that are not banned. Anyone explain to me??

almost certainly due to the effort involved, banner and the like means soldier has to actually put in work to get his effects, mixed in with the fact that losing your secondary means a lot more to him than to someone like sniper or scout

battalion backup's banned though, it wrecks shit on viaduct as it turns out

I mentioned a while ago that the concheror could work in 6s really well with the buffs that were added but that was kind of quietly ignored, idk why

I tried running concheror on viaduct and it isn't really viable. The healing from it isn't substantial enough to make a big difference. The movement speed is really good, it just isn't long enough to be really powerful. It's also pretty easy to focus down the soldier using it, unless you use it with an uber.

does having good/great movement not contribute to a class' rank of "being the strongest"? i mean if we're talking strong as in purely damage then okay sure.