http://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories/

Here is a video boogie2988 made that sheds some light on what it's like to be obese.

You shouldn't "shame" people just because they're fat. But you should "shame" stupid delusional people for spouting bullshit; the kind of people who promote ridiculous ideas such as "health at every size" and "fat is beautiful" just to justify their weight and repulsive eating habits because accepting those ideas is easier than proper diet and exercise. There is nothing healthy, glamorous, fun or attractive about being obese.

This is one of my favorite debates on the topic not only because the "plus size" model does a pitiful job defending her ideas but she died, shortly after this debate, at 36 years old even though she was "perfectly healthy". ha ha ha ha

Also, for those who blame genetics; your body can't defy the laws of thermodynamics. If you consume less calories than you "burn" your body will get smaller and if you consume more calories than you "burn" your body will get bigger. If your whole family is fat it's not genetics, it's tradition. You ate the same way your parents ate which is the same way their parents ate...

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Weren't you making fun of fat people in one of your posts several weeks ago waffleb

I don't mind if someone is fat. I will treat someone the way they treat me.

What annoys me is when they wear small clothing and it's really gross. :X

What? You can't handle a real women?

There are times and places for everything!

[thing: this topic + place: tf.tv] = time: never

[thing: this topic + place: tumblr.com] = time: whenever you want!

unless your friend follows you on tumblr in which case. . .

I mean post whatever but

i wouldn't say inherently ugly although that is generally how people think of it

which is what? You are what you look like in the mirror? You're not as healthy as some other people? Your friend probably doesn't need a reality check. Unless she is very conceited and believes that her appearance is above criticism.

I don't think it's unreasonable to be upset by the fact that people are being uncivil to you. I mean sure it happens all the time but people can still be mad about it when it happens, right? Most people are really insecure about a lot of stuff. If she doesn't feel good about her appearance, I can understand why she's bothered when people bring it up.

Then again maybe you're one of those people who believes that any person can overcome any difficulty simply by changing their mode of thinking.

What bothers me is fat people who complain they are fat. I used to be overweight(never obese), and kids used to call me out on it and tease me about it. Truthfully, these things hurt, but sugarcoating, being politically correct, is the last thing you want to do with obese people. There needs to be harsh people, who snaps this person back to reality, and show them the fact of their obesity and bad decisions.

Telling people, "you are just fine the way you are" is even more dangerous than verbally abusing someone for something like obesity. People need to realize that weight is something that is CONSTANTLY in your control. It's not genetics, it's not an addiction, it's you. Let's face it, obesity is disgusting, it's not attractive, and you must have a fetish if you like this:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KKQoFixc0vU/UGH5trYbOPI/AAAAAAAABdA/JZBKg-JS8ZY/s400/Funny-Fat-People-13.jpg

If people actually care about you, they'll be honest and truthful on the matter.

I think it is sometimes hard for skinny people to realize that some fat people just like being fat. If your friend works at a plus size store and is fat, maybe she is simply venting about how people make fun of her, rather than being fundamentally disturbed by it. So you could just be a friend and lend a supporting ear rather than trying to manipulatively/subversively change her.

binge eating because you're depressed is definitely a psychological addiction, i used to be 260ish and im 200 now and i honestly didnt care about losing weight, i just did it because thats whats "normal". its unhealthy to be overweight but judging her on it based on appearance is pretty silly to me. also what ukm said, fatso

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It's in off-topic, Nora.

You're nitpicking. It's not about giving her friend a reality check. Waffle is concerned for her friend's well being and asked for opinions from other folks on the subject. Whether her friend is comfortable being overweight is irrelevant to the real health issues that can come along with being overweight.

In the case of being overweight, this can be especially true. Controlling your diet and exercising is a pretty straight forward path for most people. My grandmother has been overweight her whole life, and she has cried and bitched about the unfair treatment, how she just can't help it, the works. But for the past few years she has been controlling what she eats and how much, and surprise! She's been losing weight. Even if it isn't the ultimate fixer, having a different mindset plays a huge part in turning your life around.

I'm sorry, but being obese is something that is (usually) easily solved by a little self-control. The reality is, she can fix her problem (the one she is being persecuted for) by holding off on snacks, eating healthier, and exercising even if just a little.
If she is obese for a different reason, such as wanting to be a special plus-sized snowflake - which seems unlikely - that's fine. I would still be just as much as a friend. I would still, however, disagree with her choice to be less healthy than most people and unattractive to the majority of the population (which is why she gets made fun of)

that's a good example

I read a short story in one of my classes last semester called "The Fat Girl", which I found pretty insightful because I typically judge who I find attractive by weight, even though I know it's superficial and bourgeois I still wont regard overweight women as potential partners. The story's about how people attempt to change her diet and routine in order for her to lose weight and how she copes with it, some of the help comes from a place of love and caring and others from trying to reinforce society's standards of beauty and happiness.

it's a pretty good story and worth the read, it's only 15 pages. it might be a good way to understand how to approach your friend

http://apelac3.edublogs.org/files/2012/03/The-Fat-Girl-297rfhc.pdf

Ain't no pussy good enough to get burnt while I'm up in it

I think a good friend would tell her the truth if it means her being more healthy and living a longer life even if it's at the expense of her feelings. It's just all about how you approach her about it.

Sometimes the truth hurts, and sometimes it's what you need.

Aside from that... More cushion for the pushing! :)

Let me put this into tumblr terms you can understand:

As a white "cis" working class heterosexual male with a more than reasonable level of intellect born into a jewish home raised by a single mother in a studio apartment I can tell you with 100 shekels worth of certainty that you are riding the hurt feelings train all the way to buttfrustration station.

Fat people are fat for a multitude of reasons. Just because you got people like Francis who are very funny and likable people but make these completely retarded sob stories about how there's a cycle of pain doesn't mean that these sob stores aren't completely delusional.

A monthly membership to the New York Sports Club costs $50 a month. The SYEP program for youth ranging from 14 to 24 years of age provides about $1000 for 6 weeks worth of work with a state-mandated max of 25 hours of work a week. If you don't want to pay for a gym membership, walking is free and you can spend money on your own sports bottle to fill with free motherfucking water. Most, if not all, insurance policies these days cover psychological evaluations and psychiatric medications to some extent (this goes into socioeconomic status once again but that's another story for another time). Going back to my original post, gastroenterologist visits are also covered under a multitude of insurance types where they give FREE advice and FREE referrals to licensed nutritionists. Places like Whole Foods and Trader Joes are springing up in places that need healthy organic food the most. I have a local farm that's a 30 minute drive away back home that provides fresh and organic fruits, vegetables, and snacks for very affordable prices. There are ads on local buses here that provide warnings against over-ingesting energy drinks like Vitaminwater and Gatorade that are filled with hidden sugars (the drinks are targeted towards athletic people for a reason).

Yes, people do need to be more accepting of the fact that there are fat people in this world and they're either looking for help to lose weight or they're comfortable with being fat (best and most well-known example: fetish and "plus size" models). Yes, I am in the minority that would rather fuck a fat chick over a tranny. Yes, I'm eating a philly cheesesteak with swiss right now and I picked out the two slices of tomato and just left the lettuce like a big gay baby. But no, fat people are perfectly capable of changing the way they eat and live. The resources are there and well within reach these days.

I apologize for spergin' out.

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this thread needs to check its "awful thread" privilege

PLEASE don't drop the terms "genetic" and "predisposition" or any combination of those when talking about overweight/obese people. Only one in about 1000 people with weight problem have an actual genetic problem.

I am not for fat shaming, but I am against fat acceptance. People in general are severely misinformed with regards to health and body weight.

no one used those terms?

tell her she is fat and she needs to go on a diet

I have a friend IRL that is transexual. She is still pretty fashionable, very indie looking, etc, but she is transexual. She takes a lot of hormones and dresses in girl clothes.

She keeps complaining about how other people make fun of her when she's working at her clothing store. I never comment on her gender - it doesn't bother me on its own, but sometimes there are times when I want to and I don't, because I'm her friend.

I personally think its pretty unreasonable to expect people not to shame you if you're transsexual, since it is an inherently unhealthy/ugly trait. I would never hate on anyone solely because of their gender, don't get me wrong - but, there are plenty of times when it does seem appropriate to shame someone and bring them back down to reality.

opinions

eh

ok can we just take a second and address the important part of this thread gr8stalin what the FUCK who puts tomatoes on a cheesesteak get the fuck out

There's this newly built food place across from my quad that does this bullshit. The place I usually go to on campus that does it right closed early for some reason but this place was open. I'm not gonna order a cheesesteak there again.

before you plus frag clorg keep in mind he thinks having gender dysphoria and being gay are choices

you're a choice

I just don't understand the comparison between gender dysphoria and being overweight.