it was gay to add it in the first place imagine being so pissed about something as irrelevant as this that you now want it gone

This guy's a real JERK

someone i didnt know and never personally interacted with did something bad?

time to riot

can't wait for the axtinguisher attribute to be renamed to carpet's offclassery mastery

Imagine being an adult and still lack any sort of empathy towards others who may have gone through actual heartbreak and tragedy .

I'm actually astonished that you guys care so much lmao.

If a man wants to fake his death let him do his thing

This ain't it, chief.

To think I admired Sketchek at one point. Gosh, I thought you were brave, trying to make a bold statement about video games and the sanctity of life. But no, you're just a coward. You lied to all of us just so you could lay low for a little while, reaping the rewards of our misguided kindness and love towards you. And now you have the audacity to come back like this. I won't hate on you for admitting to it, but you should have never done this in the first place and that's what I'm angry about. However, in revealing your lie, you showed no empathy or even a slight bit of consideration to our pain, so I don't even know what to think about your announcement. Did you really think you could laugh it off with all of us? Do you have no shame or dignity?

EDIT: I appreciate your genuine and heartfelt apology. I understand you made a bad choice and although I can't fully accept your apology at this moment because of how extreme and horrible your lie was, I'm glad you're making steps to improve yourself and get yourself back on track.

Being a Pyro main is a mental illness.

any ETA for the axtinguisher change?

You're a fucking moron, fuck you

Must be nice having the privilege to lie about having a terminal illness when people are really losing family and friends to terminal illness

Must be nice having the privilege to angrily respond to someone lying about having a terminal illness when people in third world countries are really shitting in the streets and have no access to decent infrastructure let alone computers for hundreds of miles

okay reasons to fake your death:

- being hunted by the cartel
- facing a lifetime of prison for a crime you didn't commit

not okay reasons to fake your death:

- pranks

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/155/Relative-Privation

Changed my opinion, deleted this post. New post down below.

because you can't be sad for real on the internet dude what

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/169/Strawman_Fallacy
Incorrect. The point of my post was not to justify or shine more light onto sketchek's act by using an example with a worsened scenario, but instead to showcase the casuistry of bringing up "privilege". The irony is that Vecc enjoys many of the same privileges as sketchek, and to use "privilege" as the fulcrum of one's argument simply does not hold water, because when one does use "privilege" as an argumenative point, it will always quickly devolve into who is the least privileged person, when privilege was never of the matter of fact to begin with.

At least you recognize your opinion is shit.

imagine your friend dies of cancer, and then some dickhead pretends to die of cancer and then comes back and says “yeah I didn’t have cancer LOL sorry dude”

imagine how you would feel towards that person, not for 5 seconds, seriously THINK about it. THATS why people care about him faking terminal illness

Not that I think what Sketchek did was ok, but Tommy was trying to point out that exact same fallacy in the original statement.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/018/681/Ow_the_edge.jpg

attacking a fallacy with another fallacy? brilliant!

the real tragedy

Sketchek's fanbase is the kind of fanbase that two or more years after his supposed death keeps so much up with any potential sketchek rumor that they work to solve an arg.

They're the kinda dudes who google the word sketchek more than I google the phrase "tmp pyro tf2".

It's a bit creepy talking to a sketchek fanboy, it's almost like talking to a stalker. I totally get why he would feel like he had to do something on that level to keep people like that from trying to constantly contact him if he just wanted to be done with it all. But I don't think it's the right thing to do. I don't even know if that's the reason he'd do that.

seconded

Would make a second edit but who even reads those

I've thought about it for a bit now (and had somebody bawl to me on discord for a bit), and yeah I understand it's immoral. Personally I think it was a way out to avoid potential backlash. Others think he wanted attention and didn't give a shit. TF2 youtubers are shitting all over his name, his channel is going up in flames, but he hasn't even released his apology video that he's working on yet.

I'd like people to see his full apology video before making up reasons before we destroy any chance of him coming back.

I admit even my last post was a bit biased now, so I'm gonna delete it if I can. I still like to think of the best possible outcome, I like to forgive and forget when I think people are truly sorry, and I tend to have less feelings with people I've never really met. But maybe he is absolute scum, maybe he uses all of us to make money and that's it. I wanna see what he has to say first, and then I'll form a solid opinion and I'll choose if I really want him back.

Unfortunately, everybody is jumping to attack him before he can release a full statement, which is wrong. None of us know what really happened, and it seems the community has already sentenced him to death before he could make a statement. This is a horrible way to deal with wrongdoers in a community, we should never put emotions before facts. I can't remember who made this quote, but I remember learning a quote something along the lines of "A lie can travel around the world twice before the truth can step out the front door".

This whole situation reminds me of the king raja instance, where he fucked up, people called him out, he learned what he did wrong and apologized, and people forgave him. Sketchek has already mentioned that an apology video is coming out tonight, but people continue to keep calling him out before seeing what he has to say, which seems absolutely redundant. This whole thing feels like one big bandwagon of "Hate on Sketchek".

Again, I understand he did do something immoral, but I'm seeing far too many people make up reasons as to why he did it without knowing why, and these accusations are only making the situation worse. I'm even an example of this, so I'm gonna delete my last post.

TD;LR, let sketchek have his say before bashing his name into the dirt.

it was a shitty thing to do but you guys care way too much, you don't need to write entire essays about how mad you are

he already made his statement, it doesn't change the fact he lied and then tried to marginalize what he had done.

as for the rest of the people sitting here acting like we shouldn't give a shit you're actually delusional. some of us had a couple close friends in the comp. community that actually did die (waar RIP) and to try and turn this into some sort of joke or "let him do what he wants" type of scenario makes you a fucking sub human and you're equally emotionally and socially disturbed as sketchek is.

seriously, fuck off with that garbage

Wouldn’t it have been better to just start making videos under a different name if you wanted to come back? I am not one of the people that deeply cares about this, but even symbolically, it would probably feel better to let the online persona of Sketchek go. Lying is bad, but even then, it feels like starting fresh would feel better even if people eventually found out that your new online persona was the same person as the old one. It would feel more legitimate if your intent was really to not come back to the same thing you had before.

Either way, it’s been three years, and if this apology video isn’t shitgarbage and the new videos are still good, I’ll watch them. I’ve never been the type to hold a grudge if people admit they were being stupid and make what seems like a legitimate effort to change.

I honestly want to give him the benefit of the doubt, I can understand why he'd want out of steam and gaming in general, but that doesn't mean the way he did it was acceptable.
I'm hugely disappointed.