i69: Day 3 - Finals

#1

Jynxii

64 Frags – +

congrats to froyo

#2

maly

tf2pickup.org

3 Frags – +

gg

#3

Mak

9 Frags – +

i69. lool

#4

YeeHaw

8 Frags – +

-post reserved for when i make it to grands-

#5

riotbz

8 Frags – +

damn xiao has played really well so far, definitely exceeded expectations

#6

SOOOOOAPYMEISTER

18 Frags – +

CAPS HAS WON A MAJOR

#7

DomoCatFace

-8 Frags – +

Wait it's £5,000 British Pounds and not £5,000 American Dollars?

#8

xtradv

0 Frags – +

Do we know what relevant teams are going?

#9

Sneaky

9 Frags – +

xtradvDo we know what relevant teams are going?

Froyo from NA and witness/tf2easy from EU

[quote=xtradv]Do we know what relevant teams are going?[/quote]
Froyo from NA and witness/tf2easy from EU

#10

Crayon

0 Frags – +

hi

#11

cre-8

-9 Frags – +

DomoCatFaceWait it's £5,000 British Pounds and not £5,000 American Dollars?

thats what it seems like to me, and second, for a sport thats been around for 15 years almost, 5 thousand pounds is shit. then again super smash bros melee exists where the biggest fighting game tournament in the world cant support it due to it being owned by sony and nintendo not wanting to be affiliated with sony in any capacity. least tf2 has less restrictions, wheres the 10k? the 25k? the 50k? the 100k? we need tournaments of more worthy money to pass around, otherwise this specific game's esports industry is being sent to a mausoleum with the likes of melee, overwatch, soul calibur, metazoo, and several other games of different genres. i wish i could help, but due to the fact i dont even have a job, i feel like i never will be able to help. i will help at least melee financially with the business i currently do, which brings me very limited money, but still.

[quote=DomoCatFace]Wait it's £5,000 British Pounds and not £5,000 American Dollars?[/quote]
thats what it seems like to me, and second, for a sport thats been around for 15 years almost, 5 thousand pounds is shit. then again super smash bros melee exists where the biggest fighting game tournament in the world cant support it due to it being owned by sony and nintendo not wanting to be affiliated with sony in any capacity. least tf2 has less restrictions, wheres the 10k? the 25k? the 50k? the 100k? we need tournaments of more worthy money to pass around, otherwise this specific game's esports industry is being sent to a mausoleum with the likes of melee, overwatch, soul calibur, metazoo, and several other games of different genres. i wish i could help, but due to the fact i dont even have a job, i feel like i never will be able to help. i will help at least melee financially with the business i currently do, which brings me very limited money, but still.

#12

Crayon

5 Frags – +

cre-8DomoCatFaceWait it's £5,000 British Pounds and not £5,000 American Dollars?thats what it seems like to me, and second, for a sport thats been around for 15 years almost, 5 thousand pounds is shit. then again super smash bros melee exists where the biggest fighting game tournament in the world cant support it due to it being owned by sony and nintendo not wanting to be affiliated with sony in any capacity. least tf2 has less restrictions, wheres the 10k? the 25k? the 50k? the 100k? we need tournaments of more worthy money to pass around, otherwise this specific game's esports industry is being sent to a mausoleum with the likes of melee, overwatch, soul calibur, metazoo, and several other games of different genres. i wish i could help, but due to the fact i dont even have a job, i feel like i never will be able to help. i will help at least melee financially with the business i currently do, which brings me very limited money, but still.

init

[quote=cre-8][quote=DomoCatFace]Wait it's £5,000 British Pounds and not £5,000 American Dollars?[/quote]
thats what it seems like to me, and second, for a sport thats been around for 15 years almost, 5 thousand pounds is shit. then again super smash bros melee exists where the biggest fighting game tournament in the world cant support it due to it being owned by sony and nintendo not wanting to be affiliated with sony in any capacity. least tf2 has less restrictions, wheres the 10k? the 25k? the 50k? the 100k? we need tournaments of more worthy money to pass around, otherwise this specific game's esports industry is being sent to a mausoleum with the likes of melee, overwatch, soul calibur, metazoo, and several other games of different genres. i wish i could help, but due to the fact i dont even have a job, i feel like i never will be able to help. i will help at least melee financially with the business i currently do, which brings me very limited money, but still.[/quote]

init

#13

okyaaa

-1 Frags – +

Wow froyo vs Witness Gaming (EU)

#14

freakshow

20 Frags – +

"You can't choke a push if you never push in the first place"

- Witness Gaming

"You can't choke a push if you never push in the first place"

- Witness Gaming

#15

jetz

46 Frags – +

this grands is proof that we need to play more koth

#16

Mong

-54 Frags – +

jetzthis grands is proof that we need to play more koth

or you know... highlander? there's no stalemates there

[quote=jetz]this grands is proof that we need to play more koth[/quote]
or you know... highlander? there's no stalemates there

#17

siyo

Fireside Casts

9 Frags – +

its time for cp gravelpit

#18

freakshow

5 Frags – +

Mongjetzthis grands is proof that we need to play more kothor you know... highlander? there's no stalemates there

bro is speaking fucking facts, everyone was so excited with the first games on product, but it started to become so fucking lame when snakewater was next

[quote=Mong][quote=jetz]this grands is proof that we need to play more koth[/quote]
or you know... highlander? there's no stalemates there[/quote]

bro is speaking fucking facts, everyone was so excited with the first games on product, but it started to become so fucking lame when snakewater was next

#19

funhaver1998

0 Frags – +

what needed to happen to justify pushing outta last?

#20

siyo

Fireside Casts

11 Frags – +

when u push out cus no one wants to watch a golden cap stalemate

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1013202130083008606/1013601904087023677/unknown.png

when u push out cus no one wants to watch a golden cap stalemate

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1013202130083008606/1013601904087023677/unknown.png

#21

Mong

-22 Frags – +

https://ebolo.s-ul.eu/cv1CKKsz.png

[img]https://ebolo.s-ul.eu/cv1CKKsz.png[/img]

#22

Handcuffed

-15 Frags – +

haven't followed TF2 for ~5 years but randomly stumbled into a TF2 stream earlier this month and caught the last couple of days of i69.

eu (and maybe na?) is very regressive.

haven't followed TF2 for ~5 years but randomly stumbled into a TF2 stream earlier this month and caught the last couple of days of i69.

eu (and maybe na?) is very regressive.

#23

murkscribe

4 Frags – +

Johnny sack.

#24

Mak

17 Frags – +

hey guys lets get 5 minat rule timer because less time = you HAVE to push. wait what do u mean u time out round for free and then caveman pleb opens and chat mains are madge. fuck u all u fucking noobs

#25

jetz

18 Frags – +

Makhey guys lets get 5 minat rule timer because less time = you HAVE to push. wait what do u mean u time out round for free and then caveman pleb opens and chat mains are madge. fuck u all u fucking noobs

no hate on wg they were playing to win obviously, i think that grands is more of an indictment of the current ruleset/map pool than anything else

[quote=Mak]hey guys lets get 5 minat rule timer because less time = you HAVE to push. wait what do u mean u time out round for free and then caveman pleb opens and chat mains are madge. fuck u all u fucking noobs[/quote]
no hate on wg they were playing to win obviously, i think that grands is more of an indictment of the current ruleset/map pool than anything else

#26

coyo_geezer

-4 Frags – +

remove defensive offclasses or make lasts more open to allow u to not get stuffed in a doorway.

#27

RoL

6 Frags – +

insane grand finals set, sitting at the edge of my seat wondering what'll happen

#28

Tcmano

7 Frags – +

It was an interesting Grands, especially from a meta pov. WG play style is reminiscent of 7, in that both never pushed unless they had a guaranteed opportunity to do so (esp from last), though maybe thats just the Kaidus coaching. Each had different reasons, but the result was still the same.

#29

mustardoverlord

8 Frags – +

jetzMakhey guys lets get 5 minat rule timer because less time = you HAVE to push. wait what do u mean u time out round for free and then caveman pleb opens and chat mains are madge. fuck u all u fucking noobsno hate on wg they were playing to win obviously, i think that grands is more of an indictment of the current ruleset/map pool than anything else

Not to be pessimistic but it's hard to shake the feeling that players are also to 'blame' for optimizing the fun out of the game over the years- as people get better and better at playing defensively finding the hole in a setup is harder and harder as the pushing team

If valve were actively developing the game they'd see these finals and make many sweeping changes to the balance of the game but, alas, not to be

[quote=jetz][quote=Mak]hey guys lets get 5 minat rule timer because less time = you HAVE to push. wait what do u mean u time out round for free and then caveman pleb opens and chat mains are madge. fuck u all u fucking noobs[/quote]
no hate on wg they were playing to win obviously, i think that grands is more of an indictment of the current ruleset/map pool than anything else[/quote]

Not to be pessimistic but it's hard to shake the feeling that players are also to 'blame' for optimizing the fun out of the game over the years- as people get better and better at playing defensively finding the hole in a setup is harder and harder as the pushing team

If valve were actively developing the game they'd see these finals and make many sweeping changes to the balance of the game but, alas, not to be

#30

botmode

34 Frags – +

blaming reduced round timer and not backpacks, snake/gran last being too powerful of a defense and froyo not having good sac protocols on snake/gran and over committing to pushes then not punishing the lack of pushouts, wG got super punished for it on gully. you can legit hold snake last for 10 minutes easy and granary is very doable. 35% DR on a weapon that works better and easier when defending than attacking, actually in disbelief no one is talking about this lol l m a o

would rather watch another midfight than 5 more minutes of stalemate, bad take calling round timer bad

blaming reduced round timer and not backpacks, snake/gran last being too powerful of a defense and froyo not having good sac protocols on snake/gran and over committing to pushes then not punishing the lack of pushouts, wG got super punished for it on gully. you can legit hold snake last for 10 minutes easy and granary is very doable. 35% DR on a weapon that works better and easier when defending than attacking, actually in disbelief no one is talking about this lol l m a o

would rather watch another midfight than 5 more minutes of stalemate, bad take calling round timer bad