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this was the first election cycle in which I didn't see a dedicated thread on tftv filled with mustardoverlord posts.

Donald Trump is projected to be president of the United States in 2025, and the republican party has control of the house and senate.

this was the first election cycle in which I didn't see a dedicated thread on tftv filled with mustardoverlord posts.

Donald Trump is projected to be president of the United States in 2025, and the republican party has control of the house and senate.
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#2
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The Republican party has free reign to pass almost anything now. Can someone more informed speculate more on the connection between Trump and Project 2025? I was under the impression that he has distanced himself from the group because 501c3 non-profits can't endorse candidates, but there is a lot of inbreeding going on between them. Ultimately I am trying to figure out if Project 2025 is a better indicator of future policy goals or not.

The Republican party has free reign to pass almost anything now. Can someone more informed speculate more on the connection between Trump and Project 2025? I was under the impression that he has distanced himself from the group because 501c3 non-profits can't endorse candidates, but there is a lot of inbreeding going on between them. Ultimately I am trying to figure out if Project 2025 is a better indicator of future policy goals or not.
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#3
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as a trans person, i am super excited for the government to decide what my medical care consists of rather than my fucking doctor

as a trans person, i am super excited for the government to decide what my medical care consists of rather than my fucking doctor
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#4
52 Frags +

which klandidate did you volk for in the amerikkkan preᛋᛋidential ele卐ion

which klandidate did you volk for in the amerikkkan preᛋᛋidential ele卐ion
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#5
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maraudeRthis was the first election cycle in which I didn't see a dedicated thread on tftv filled with mustardoverlord posts.

i knew democrat voter turnout would be down when I looked at tftv

[quote=maraudeR]this was the first election cycle in which I didn't see a dedicated thread on tftv filled with mustardoverlord posts.
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i knew democrat voter turnout would be down when I looked at tftv
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#6
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Where did 14 million Biden voters go?

Where did 14 million Biden voters go?
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#7
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if only kamala courted the prestigious "tftv schizoposter" endorsement

if only kamala courted the prestigious "tftv schizoposter" endorsement
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plumThe Republican party has free reign to pass almost anything now. Can someone more informed speculate more on the connection between Trump and Project 2025? I was under the impression that he has distanced himself from the group because 501c3 non-profits can't endorse candidates, but there is a lot of inbreeding going on between them. Ultimately I am trying to figure out if Project 2025 is a better indicator of future policy goals or not.

Perhaps. We'll just have to wait and see. Many (but not nearly all) policy recommendations from the Heritage Foundation have been adopted by administrations since Reagan. Tons of conservative orgs come together and they make a big book of proposals, with an emphasis this time around on getting the right personnel into the white house and bureaucracy, because the last Trump administration was ineffective and full of traitors and neocons that didn't really believe in the original nationalist message. Anyways a handful of real conservatives from the first admin landed at the Heritage Foundation, and because the issues in this country are so extreme they sought solutions that were pretty extreme based, but unfortunately Trump's already surrounded himself with tons of special interests that weren't cool endangering the campaign by associating with it so they say anyone who's worked on it is blacklisted. They can still pick and choose if they want since they won, but it's unlikely because they've already gone with their own kosher version of it called Agenda 47.

[quote=plum]The Republican party has free reign to pass almost anything now. Can someone more informed speculate more on the connection between Trump and Project 2025? I was under the impression that he has distanced himself from the group because 501c3 non-profits can't endorse candidates, but there is a lot of inbreeding going on between them. Ultimately I am trying to figure out if Project 2025 is a better indicator of future policy goals or not.[/quote]

Perhaps. We'll just have to wait and see. Many (but not nearly all) policy recommendations from the Heritage Foundation have been adopted by administrations since Reagan. Tons of conservative orgs come together and they make a big book of proposals, with an emphasis this time around on getting the right personnel into the white house and bureaucracy, because the last Trump administration was ineffective and full of traitors and neocons that didn't really believe in the original nationalist message. Anyways a handful of real conservatives from the first admin landed at the Heritage Foundation, and because the issues in this country are so extreme they sought solutions that were pretty [s]extreme[/s] based, but unfortunately Trump's already surrounded himself with tons of special interests that weren't cool endangering the campaign by associating with it so they say anyone who's worked on it is blacklisted. They can still pick and choose if they want since they won, but it's unlikely because they've already gone with their own kosher version of it called Agenda 47.
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#10
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I'm all in.

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I'm all in.
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I think it's obvious that kamala made a lot of mistakes in her campaign (campaigning with liz cheney is one of many examples that comes to mind), but it's also true that a large number of americans aren't going to vote for a black woman. i think joe biden also bears a lot of blame for not dropping out sooner (3 months isn't a long time to build a campaign). if democratic party leadership wants to win an election ever again, they need to deeply reflect on how they managed to lose to a known rapist and felon. personally, i think she failed to distance herself from the biden admin. i honestly can't remember a single kamala harris policy

I think it's obvious that kamala made a lot of mistakes in her campaign (campaigning with liz cheney is one of many examples that comes to mind), but it's also true that a large number of americans aren't going to vote for a black woman. i think joe biden also bears a lot of blame for not dropping out sooner (3 months isn't a long time to build a campaign). if democratic party leadership wants to win an election ever again, they need to deeply reflect on how they managed to lose to a known rapist and felon. personally, i think she failed to distance herself from the biden admin. i honestly can't remember a single kamala harris policy
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#12
Fireside Casts
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#1 cause of loss is inflation. despite powell's seemingly successful soft landing towards the end of biden's term, inflation was on an exorbitant rise for the majority of biden's term. when the working class are hurting, they'll vote the other way. character assassination of the other candidate can't be done when working class americans are more concerned with how far they can stretch the paycheck.

though i think in this regard americans are short sighted, given that biden came into the presidency in the early and most deadliest stages of the pandemic fueled on top of a stimulus package from the trump presidency

but not even that, with housing and real estate gone up and being eaten away by private corporations, there's a ton of things americans have to be angry about in that regard

#1 cause of loss is inflation. despite powell's seemingly successful [url=https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/softlanding.asp&ved=2ahUKEwjWqfyVh8uJAxXPkokEHdEdKfEQFnoECBwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0lOpj0fZDprDxtJ9iUB5T7]soft landing[/url] towards the end of biden's term, inflation was on an exorbitant rise for the majority of biden's term. when the working class are hurting, they'll vote the other way. character assassination of the other candidate can't be done when working class americans are more concerned with how far they can stretch the paycheck.

though i think in this regard americans are short sighted, given that biden came into the presidency in the early and most deadliest stages of the pandemic fueled on top of a stimulus package from the trump presidency

but not even that, with housing and real estate gone up and being eaten away by private corporations, there's a ton of things americans have to be angry about in that regard
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#13
47 Frags +

I am too lazy to say much other than props for the posts in here being far less dumb than they were in 2016. I guess that's proof that tf2 is dying, when only adults actually use the forum

I am too lazy to say much other than props for the posts in here being far less dumb than they were in 2016. I guess that's proof that tf2 is dying, when only adults actually use the forum
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#14
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siyo#1 cause of loss is inflation. despite powell's seemingly successful soft landing towards the end of biden's term, inflation was on an exorbitant rise for the majority of biden's term. when the working class are hurting, they'll vote the other way. character assassination of the other candidate can't be done when working class americans are more concerned with how far they can stretch the paycheck.

though i think in this regard americans are short sighted, given that biden came into the presidency in the early and most deadliest stages of the pandemic fueled on top of a stimulus package from the trump presidency

but not even that, with housing and real estate gone up and being eaten away by private corporations, there's a ton of things americans have to be angry about in that regard

This exact same thing has happened in Canada as well. I don't think Trudeau has a chance next election lol

[quote=siyo]#1 cause of loss is inflation. despite powell's seemingly successful [url=https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/softlanding.asp&ved=2ahUKEwjWqfyVh8uJAxXPkokEHdEdKfEQFnoECBwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0lOpj0fZDprDxtJ9iUB5T7]soft landing[/url] towards the end of biden's term, inflation was on an exorbitant rise for the majority of biden's term. when the working class are hurting, they'll vote the other way. character assassination of the other candidate can't be done when working class americans are more concerned with how far they can stretch the paycheck.

though i think in this regard americans are short sighted, given that biden came into the presidency in the early and most deadliest stages of the pandemic fueled on top of a stimulus package from the trump presidency

but not even that, with housing and real estate gone up and being eaten away by private corporations, there's a ton of things americans have to be angry about in that regard[/quote]
This exact same thing has happened in Canada as well. I don't think Trudeau has a chance next election lol
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She made a map for Fortnite, what can you really say? Her demographic was people who aren’t even going to be eligible to vote in the next election.

She made a map for Fortnite, what can you really say? Her demographic was people who aren’t even going to be eligible to vote in the next election.
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Fireside Casts
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cookiesiyo#1 cause of loss is inflation. despite powell's seemingly successful soft landing towards the end of biden's term, inflation was on an exorbitant rise for the majority of biden's term. when the working class are hurting, they'll vote the other way. character assassination of the other candidate can't be done when working class americans are more concerned with how far they can stretch the paycheck.

though i think in this regard americans are short sighted, given that biden came into the presidency in the early and most deadliest stages of the pandemic fueled on top of a stimulus package from the trump presidency

but not even that, with housing and real estate gone up and being eaten away by private corporations, there's a ton of things americans have to be angry about in that regard

This exact same thing has happened in Canada as well. I don't think Trudeau has a chance next election lol

What's the general opinion on Doug Ford?

[quote=cookie][quote=siyo]#1 cause of loss is inflation. despite powell's seemingly successful [url=https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/softlanding.asp&ved=2ahUKEwjWqfyVh8uJAxXPkokEHdEdKfEQFnoECBwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0lOpj0fZDprDxtJ9iUB5T7]soft landing[/url] towards the end of biden's term, inflation was on an exorbitant rise for the majority of biden's term. when the working class are hurting, they'll vote the other way. character assassination of the other candidate can't be done when working class americans are more concerned with how far they can stretch the paycheck.

though i think in this regard americans are short sighted, given that biden came into the presidency in the early and most deadliest stages of the pandemic fueled on top of a stimulus package from the trump presidency

but not even that, with housing and real estate gone up and being eaten away by private corporations, there's a ton of things americans have to be angry about in that regard[/quote]


This exact same thing has happened in Canada as well. I don't think Trudeau has a chance next election lol[/quote]

What's the general opinion on Doug Ford?
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#17
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siyo What's the general opinion on Doug Ford?

Based on anecdotal evidence and some supporting polls like the Angus Reid Institute, most hate him and majority believe his government has performed poorly in almost every category. However, his core audience of suburban home owning car drivers would still vote for the conservative party. I feel that we can't really find out whether there has been a practical enough of a shift until the next election. Conservatives still heavily harp on "owning the libs" and "anti-woke" gibberish rhetoric.

That being said he doesn't have the same media popularity, backing of billionaires and Christian nationalists with unfettered wallets; though I think he could still win again.

[quote=siyo] What's the general opinion on Doug Ford? [/quote]

Based on anecdotal evidence and some supporting polls like the Angus Reid Institute, most hate him and majority believe his government has performed poorly in almost every category. However, his core audience of suburban home owning car drivers would still vote for the conservative party. I feel that we can't really find out whether there has been a practical enough of a shift until the next election. Conservatives still heavily harp on "owning the libs" and "anti-woke" gibberish rhetoric.

That being said he doesn't have the same media popularity, backing of billionaires and Christian nationalists with unfettered wallets; though I think he could still win again.
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#18
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RFK will take away my precious seed oils NOooooo NONONO

RFK will take away my precious seed oils NOooooo NONONO
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#19
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who would have thought that running on the same neoliberal obama platform that was tired and unpopular by 2014, having no distinctive policies or even promises to speak of (markedly with no mention of medicare for all or raising the federal minimum wage) and steeling yourself to keep sending billions to ukraine and israel while a large part of your populace faces poverty on a daily basis will lose you almost any democratic election???

at a time when americans overwhelmingly support populist leftist policies with fucking missouri voting to raise state minimum wage and enshrine statutory sick pay, the democrats once again decide that sucking the golden cock of private equity is more important than actually being in office. you can partly blame inflation sure, but the simple fact of the matter is that too many repugnant characters in the dnc, including kamala, whose brother in law is the ceo of uber, just love lining their own pockets and are all too ready to treat their base with nothing short of open contempt. a lot of americans would spit in their faces if they came across any and i honestly cant blame them. country needs a modern fdr or yall are doomed

who would have thought that running on the same neoliberal obama platform that was tired and unpopular by 2014, having no distinctive policies or even promises to speak of (markedly with no mention of medicare for all or raising the federal minimum wage) and steeling yourself to keep sending billions to ukraine and israel while a large part of your populace faces poverty on a daily basis will lose you almost any democratic election???

at a time when americans overwhelmingly support populist leftist policies with fucking missouri voting to raise state minimum wage and enshrine statutory sick pay, the democrats once again decide that sucking the golden cock of private equity is more important than actually being in office. you can partly blame inflation sure, but the simple fact of the matter is that too many repugnant characters in the dnc, including kamala, whose brother in law is the ceo of uber, just love lining their own pockets and are all too ready to treat their base with nothing short of open contempt. a lot of americans would spit in their faces if they came across any and i honestly cant blame them. country needs a modern fdr or yall are doomed
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#20
33 Frags +

the trump administration can secure themselves 4 years of overhwhelming popular support if the first executive order to come out of the oval office is a warrant for an arrest and immediate public execution of the starcraft streamer and unrepentant pedophile destiny

the trump administration can secure themselves 4 years of overhwhelming popular support if the first executive order to come out of the oval office is a warrant for an arrest and immediate public execution of the starcraft streamer and unrepentant pedophile destiny
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#21
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torritwho would have thought that running on the same neoliberal obama platform that was tired and unpopular by 2014, having no distinctive policies or even promises to speak of (markedly with no mention of medicare for all or raising the federal minimum wage) and steeling yourself to keep sending billions to ukraine and israel while a large part of your populace faces poverty on a daily basis will lose you almost any democratic election???

at a time when americans overwhelmingly support populist leftist policies with fucking missouri voting to raise state minimum wage and enshrine statutory sick pay, the democrats once again decide that sucking the golden cock of private equity is more important than actually being in office. you can partly blame inflation sure, but the simple fact of the matter is that too many repugnant characters in the dnc, including kamala, whose brother in law is the ceo of uber, just love lining their own pockets and are all too ready to treat their base with nothing short of open contempt. a lot of americans would spit in their faces if they came across any and i honestly cant blame them. country needs a modern fdr or yall are doomed

Sad day in America when a Brit knows why Kamala lost more than the average American. Trump didn't get more votes than he did in 2020, he actually lost about a million voters compared to 2020. It's just that Kamala had more than 10 million fewer votes than Biden got. Biden ran on a relatively progressive campaign (student loan debt forgiveness, public option healthcare, legalizing marijuana, etc) for an American president. What policies did Kamala have? $50k tax credit for small business owners? Who gives a fuck, how many middle or lower class people does that help? The Democrats didn't give any popular policies for their base to WANT to go out to vote for. That's it. They gave us a boring, stale candidate that caved to as many Republican policies as they could. We used to talk about amnesty for all undocumented immigrants without a violent crime record, and Kamala's position was to instead try to appear just as heartless with deporting immigrants that've been here for decades as Trump.

The Democrats will unfortunately never put forward a legitimately progressive candidate. We saw this in 2016 and 2020 when they basically assassinated the Bernie campaign twice. Because, yeah, they ultimately still serve the ultra-wealthy and are not a people's party.

[quote=torrit]who would have thought that running on the same neoliberal obama platform that was tired and unpopular by 2014, having no distinctive policies or even promises to speak of (markedly with no mention of medicare for all or raising the federal minimum wage) and steeling yourself to keep sending billions to ukraine and israel while a large part of your populace faces poverty on a daily basis will lose you almost any democratic election???

at a time when americans overwhelmingly support populist leftist policies with fucking missouri voting to raise state minimum wage and enshrine statutory sick pay, the democrats once again decide that sucking the golden cock of private equity is more important than actually being in office. you can partly blame inflation sure, but the simple fact of the matter is that too many repugnant characters in the dnc, including kamala, whose brother in law is the ceo of uber, just love lining their own pockets and are all too ready to treat their base with nothing short of open contempt. a lot of americans would spit in their faces if they came across any and i honestly cant blame them. country needs a modern fdr or yall are doomed[/quote]
Sad day in America when a Brit knows why Kamala lost more than the average American. Trump didn't get more votes than he did in 2020, he actually lost about a million voters compared to 2020. It's just that Kamala had more than 10 million fewer votes than Biden got. Biden ran on a relatively progressive campaign (student loan debt forgiveness, public option healthcare, legalizing marijuana, etc) for an American president. What policies did Kamala have? $50k tax credit for small business owners? Who gives a fuck, how many middle or lower class people does that help? The Democrats didn't give any popular policies for their base to WANT to go out to vote for. That's it. They gave us a boring, stale candidate that caved to as many Republican policies as they could. We used to talk about amnesty for all undocumented immigrants without a violent crime record, and Kamala's position was to instead try to appear just as heartless with deporting immigrants that've been here for decades as Trump.

The Democrats will unfortunately never put forward a legitimately progressive candidate. We saw this in 2016 and 2020 when they basically assassinated the Bernie campaign twice. Because, yeah, they ultimately still serve the ultra-wealthy and are not a people's party.
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pajaroTrump didn't get more votes than he did in 2020, he actually lost about a million voters compared to 2020.

FWIW I don't think this will end up being true; when I write this Trump is at ~73.5 million votes and he ended up with ~74.2 million votes in 2020, but states especially on the west coast haven't finished counting yet. Cali in particular is slow as shit and still has like 5.5 million votes left; he won about 40% of the votes in Cali and would have to somehow get less than 15% of the remaining faction which seems impossible, even in his absolute worst performing counties he still got like 20%.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/president-results

[quote=pajaro]Trump didn't get more votes than he did in 2020, he actually lost about a million voters compared to 2020.[/quote]

FWIW I don't think this will end up being true; when I write this Trump is at ~73.5 million votes and he ended up with ~74.2 million votes in 2020, but states especially on the west coast haven't finished counting yet. Cali in particular is slow as shit and still has like 5.5 million votes left; he won about 40% of the votes in Cali and would have to somehow get less than 15% of the remaining faction which seems impossible, even in his absolute worst performing counties he still got like 20%.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/president-results
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siyo#1 cause of loss is inflation. despite powell's seemingly successful soft landing towards the end of biden's term, inflation was on an exorbitant rise for the majority of biden's term. when the working class are hurting, they'll vote the other way. character assassination of the other candidate can't be done when working class americans are more concerned with how far they can stretch the paycheck.

Americans are really focused on the US election specifically and try to nitpick individuals/proposals/voter blocks that made Kamala lose, but the reality is that inflation has been killing both liberal and conservative incumbents around the world over the past two to three years. In that respect, Democrats may have been weak on communicating how inflationary Trump's tariffs will be, but I think a lot of the people voting Trump this cycle were low information voters that probably wouldn't have listened anyways. I'm not trying to call them stupid or anything, just that a random credit analyst in Michigan or a truck driver in Nevada probably won't try and dig into the economic and geopolitical impacts of Trump's/Kamala's proposals after getting home from work every day. They just know that their grocery bills are going up and hope the next guy makes them go down.

torrit

Your liberal politicians couldn't convince British people that Brexit was a bad idea, I don't think any other country needs your input.

[quote=siyo]#1 cause of loss is inflation. despite powell's seemingly successful [url=https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/softlanding.asp&ved=2ahUKEwjWqfyVh8uJAxXPkokEHdEdKfEQFnoECBwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0lOpj0fZDprDxtJ9iUB5T7]soft landing[/url] towards the end of biden's term, inflation was on an exorbitant rise for the majority of biden's term. when the working class are hurting, they'll vote the other way. character assassination of the other candidate can't be done when working class americans are more concerned with how far they can stretch the paycheck.[/quote]
Americans are really focused on the US election specifically and try to nitpick individuals/proposals/voter blocks that made Kamala lose, but the reality is that inflation has been killing both liberal and conservative incumbents around the world over the past two to three years. In that respect, Democrats may have been weak on communicating how inflationary Trump's tariffs will be, but I think a lot of the people voting Trump this cycle were low information voters that probably wouldn't have listened anyways. I'm not trying to call them stupid or anything, just that a random credit analyst in Michigan or a truck driver in Nevada probably won't try and dig into the economic and geopolitical impacts of Trump's/Kamala's proposals after getting home from work every day. They just know that their grocery bills are going up and hope the next guy makes them go down.
[quote=torrit][/quote]
Your liberal politicians couldn't convince British people that Brexit was a bad idea, I don't think any other country needs your input.
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#24
11 Frags +

i think people just usually of vote against the incumbent when they think the current Situation is Bad, and in the current information climate its very easy to convince people of that. DNC seemed to basically pitch a lighter weight version of conservative/"centrist" talking points ("cut down on immigration" and "increase litigation over LGBT issues" vs "stop immigration" and "stop LGBT"), which is obviously cynical and evil but also an inherently losing strategy. stuff like that COULD have won in 2016 when Trump was offputting and easy to make fun of but doesn't have any shot now that his talking points have been pretty normalized.

the most disheartening part of this result to me is that its likely that any policy that focuses on helping minority groups (other than veterans lol) is probably going to be a net negative PR move for any campaign going forward. if (big if) a D candidate campaigns on, say, helping homeless people find employment and housing, an average undecided voter wont swing blue bc theyre not homeless, but could swing red because theyve been told homeless people are all dangerous rapists. don't really see any way that kind of thing doesnt just get worse, either.

i think people just usually of vote against the incumbent when they think the current Situation is Bad, and in the current information climate its very easy to convince people of that. DNC seemed to basically pitch a lighter weight version of conservative/"centrist" talking points ("cut down on immigration" and "increase litigation over LGBT issues" vs "stop immigration" and "stop LGBT"), which is obviously cynical and evil but also an inherently losing strategy. stuff like that COULD have won in 2016 when Trump was offputting and easy to make fun of but doesn't have any shot now that his talking points have been pretty normalized.

the most disheartening part of this result to me is that its likely that any policy that focuses on helping minority groups (other than veterans lol) is probably going to be a net negative PR move for any campaign going forward. if (big if) a D candidate campaigns on, say, helping homeless people find employment and housing, an average undecided voter wont swing blue bc theyre not homeless, but could swing red because theyve been told homeless people are all dangerous rapists. don't really see any way that kind of thing doesnt just get worse, either.
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#25
9 Frags +

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lol, lmao even

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lol, lmao even
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#26
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springrollsmaraudeRthis was the first election cycle in which I didn't see a dedicated thread on tftv filled with mustardoverlord posts.i knew democrat voter turnout would be down when I looked at tftv

my bad lol should've stirred the pot like the last election :/

pajarotorrit

She definitely could've run a better campaign, I can't believe she said she wouldn't do anything different from biden, but she did have some really meaningful progressive policy points. 35 dollar insulin for everyone, continuing student loan forgiveness, banning price gouging, etc. Obviously it's no medicare for all and she was definitely running to the right of biden but the msm really wanted trump to win and smothered her campaign.

No offense to the posters here but several posters in this thread are talking about how she could do better while stating opinions about her policy platform that are actually just untrue. She had legalizing marijuana, increasing the minimum wage and more in her policy book, things that multiple posters here apparently were unaware of. In retrospect she obviously could've talked about these more but the msm definitely have some responsibility for ignoring these issues and going for easy controversy instead.

I think the inflation environment was just too hard of a base to start from. Even if she did make more right choices I don't think she could've won, she just would've stemmed the bleeding more than she already did.

[quote=springrolls][quote=maraudeR]this was the first election cycle in which I didn't see a dedicated thread on tftv filled with mustardoverlord posts.
[/quote]
i knew democrat voter turnout would be down when I looked at tftv[/quote]

my bad lol should've stirred the pot like the last election :/

[quote=pajaro][quote=torrit] [/quote][/quote]
She definitely could've run a better campaign, I can't believe she said she wouldn't do anything different from biden, but she did have some really meaningful progressive policy points. 35 dollar insulin for everyone, continuing student loan forgiveness, banning price gouging, etc. Obviously it's no medicare for all and she was definitely running to the right of biden but the msm really wanted trump to win and smothered her campaign.

No offense to the posters here but several posters in this thread are talking about how she could do better while stating opinions about her policy platform that are actually just untrue. She had legalizing marijuana, increasing the minimum wage and more in her policy book, things that multiple posters here apparently were unaware of. In retrospect she obviously could've talked about these more but the msm definitely have some responsibility for ignoring these issues and going for easy controversy instead.

I think the inflation environment was just too hard of a base to start from. Even if she did make more right choices I don't think she could've won, she just would've stemmed the bleeding more than she already did.
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RebitespringrollsmaraudeRthis was the first election cycle in which I didn't see a dedicated thread on tftv filled with mustardoverlord posts.i knew democrat voter turnout would be down when I looked at tftv
my bad lol should've stirred the pot like the last election :/
pajarotorrit She definitely could've run a better campaign, I can't believe she said she wouldn't do anything different from biden, but she did have some really meaningful progressive policy points. 35 dollar insulin for everyone, continuing student loan forgiveness, banning price gouging, etc. Obviously it's no medicare for all and she was definitely running to the right of biden but the msm really wanted trump to win and smothered her campaign.

No offense to the posters here but several posters in this thread are talking about how she could do better while stating opinions about her policy platform that are actually just untrue. She had legalizing marijuana, increasing the minimum wage and more in her policy book, things that multiple posters here apparently were unaware of. In retrospect she obviously could've talked about these more but the msm definitely have some responsibility for ignoring these issues and going for easy controversy instead.

I think the inflation environment was just too hard of a base to start from. Even if she did make more right choices I don't think she could've won, she just would've stemmed the bleeding more than she already did.

35 dollar insulin and continuing student loan forgiveness (in Biden's way) were both already things that are done. They're not new policies. It's like saying you're going to run on seatbelts being mandatory. Regarding legalizing marijuana and raising the minimum wage not being central to her campaign, she only mentioned it the last few days leading up to the election- no mention of it in the debate, no mention in her initial campaign speeches, etc. her first month of campaigning had ZERO policy positions that she would regularly talk about.

And regarding msm having responsibility- maybe to a degree, but also Kamala did 0 interviews until 2 months into her campaign. All she would do it go out and make speeches about "joy" or whatever the fuck.

[quote=Rebite][quote=springrolls][quote=maraudeR]this was the first election cycle in which I didn't see a dedicated thread on tftv filled with mustardoverlord posts.
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i knew democrat voter turnout would be down when I looked at tftv[/quote]

my bad lol should've stirred the pot like the last election :/

[quote=pajaro][quote=torrit] [/quote][/quote]
She definitely could've run a better campaign, I can't believe she said she wouldn't do anything different from biden, but she did have some really meaningful progressive policy points. 35 dollar insulin for everyone, continuing student loan forgiveness, banning price gouging, etc. Obviously it's no medicare for all and she was definitely running to the right of biden but the msm really wanted trump to win and smothered her campaign.

No offense to the posters here but several posters in this thread are talking about how she could do better while stating opinions about her policy platform that are actually just untrue. She had legalizing marijuana, increasing the minimum wage and more in her policy book, things that multiple posters here apparently were unaware of. In retrospect she obviously could've talked about these more but the msm definitely have some responsibility for ignoring these issues and going for easy controversy instead.

I think the inflation environment was just too hard of a base to start from. Even if she did make more right choices I don't think she could've won, she just would've stemmed the bleeding more than she already did.[/quote]
35 dollar insulin and continuing student loan forgiveness (in Biden's way) were both already things that are done. They're not new policies. It's like saying you're going to run on seatbelts being mandatory. Regarding legalizing marijuana and raising the minimum wage not being central to her campaign, she only mentioned it the last few days leading up to the election- no mention of it in the debate, no mention in her initial campaign speeches, etc. her first month of campaigning had ZERO policy positions that she would regularly talk about.

And regarding msm having responsibility- maybe to a degree, but also Kamala did 0 interviews until 2 months into her campaign. All she would do it go out and make speeches about "joy" or whatever the fuck.
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kamala had maybe worst campaign of all time. it was free. i'd even vote for donald i think and i dont agree with anything he stands for

kamala had maybe worst campaign of all time. it was free. i'd even vote for donald i think and i dont agree with anything he stands for
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