r4ptureLiterally the only thing this nerfs is mindless sticky spam, left click right click win game bullshit. After literally two seconds they're the exact same stickies they've always been.
Stickies are most useful the first two seconds their shot though because people are capable of aiming and killing things. You seem bitter you die to sticky spam.
[quote=r4pture]Literally the only thing this nerfs is mindless sticky spam, left click right click win game bullshit. After literally two seconds they're the exact same stickies they've always been.[/quote]
Stickies are most useful the first two seconds their shot though because people are capable of aiming and killing things. You seem bitter you die to sticky spam.
http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/232848
plat's already mastered it. demo is even more OP now then it was before, holy shit
http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/232848
plat's already mastered it. demo is even more OP now then it was before, holy shit
how does it let you get to mid faster
how does it let you get to mid faster
BarryChuckleWhether you like it or not, pretty sure everyone's agreed that this is gonna break the 6v6 meta. What I don't understand is how they thought this would help pubs. It's actually just engineer fortress 2 out there now.
also do you read the patch notes? they just nerfed sentry gun long range damage. It'll now tickle a soldier or demo from range with a medic on them. IF anything engineer just got nerfed bigtime
[quote=BarryChuckle]Whether you like it or not, pretty sure everyone's agreed that this is gonna break the 6v6 meta. What I don't understand is how they thought this would help pubs. It's actually just engineer fortress 2 out there now.[/quote]
also do you read the patch notes? they just nerfed sentry gun long range damage. It'll now tickle a soldier or demo from range with a medic on them. IF anything engineer just got nerfed bigtime
r4ptureLiterally the only thing this nerfs is mindless sticky spam, left click right click win game bullshit. After literally two seconds they're the exact same stickies they've always been.
The problem becomes more serious when you factor in healing. Heal rates haven't been changed, so as someone said before you can't kill a heavy that's being healed. Killing soldiers will take forever and scouts will take 3-4 stickies now. Even if you wait the 2 seconds.
[quote=r4pture]Literally the only thing this nerfs is mindless sticky spam, left click right click win game bullshit. After literally two seconds they're the exact same stickies they've always been.[/quote]
The problem becomes more serious when you factor in healing. Heal rates haven't been changed, so as someone said before you can't kill a heavy that's being healed. Killing soldiers will take forever and scouts will take 3-4 stickies now. Even if you wait the 2 seconds.
flameRikachuhow does it let you get to mid faster
if your stickies do less damage when you drop em on the ground immediately, you take less damage from them when you jump, meaning you have more health on your way to mid, potentially opening another jump.
lol
[quote=flame][quote=Rikachu]how does it let you get to mid faster[/quote]
if your stickies do less damage when you drop em on the ground immediately, you take less damage from them when you jump, meaning you have more health on your way to mid, potentially opening another jump.[/quote]
lol
flameIt'll allow demomen to get to mid a little faster,
Self-damage is the same.
[quote=flame]
It'll allow demomen to get to mid a little faster,
[/quote]
Self-damage is the same.
flameRikachuhow does it let you get to mid faster
if your stickies do less damage when you drop em on the ground immediately, you take less damage from them when you jump, meaning you have more health on your way to mid, potentially opening another jump.
people have said multiple times you take the same jump damage
[quote=flame][quote=Rikachu]how does it let you get to mid faster[/quote]
if your stickies do less damage when you drop em on the ground immediately, you take less damage from them when you jump, meaning you have more health on your way to mid, potentially opening another jump.[/quote]
people have said multiple times you take the same jump damage
[quote=serv0]http://cloud-3.steampowered.com/ugc/487827638562926129/BA269AF747DA10EB6BC1D04CA2A66EFEBD6008EF/
the prophet is back[/quote]
He's back its real
http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/232847
flameRikachuhow does it let you get to mid faster
if your stickies do less damage when you drop em on the ground immediately, you take less damage from them when you jump, meaning you have more health on your way to mid, potentially opening another jump.
It doesn't change self damage i think, i tested it myself and i didnt notice a change between waiting 2 secs and not waiting at all
[quote=flame][quote=Rikachu]how does it let you get to mid faster[/quote]
if your stickies do less damage when you drop em on the ground immediately, you take less damage from them when you jump, meaning you have more health on your way to mid, potentially opening another jump.[/quote]
It doesn't change self damage i think, i tested it myself and i didnt notice a change between waiting 2 secs and not waiting at all
Ofc this is gonna change the meta, but that's not necessarily bad.
Ofc this is gonna change the meta, but that's not necessarily bad.
flameRikachuhow does it let you get to mid faster
if your stickies do less damage when you drop em on the ground immediately, you take less damage from them when you jump, meaning you have more health on your way to mid, potentially opening another jump.
except it doesn't reduce the damage for jumping.
[quote=flame][quote=Rikachu]how does it let you get to mid faster[/quote]
if your stickies do less damage when you drop em on the ground immediately, you take less damage from them when you jump, meaning you have more health on your way to mid, potentially opening another jump.[/quote]
except it doesn't reduce the damage for jumping.
flameRikachuhow does it let you get to mid faster
if your stickies do less damage when you drop em on the ground immediately, you take less damage from them when you jump, meaning you have more health on your way to mid, potentially opening another jump.
They didn't change self damage.
[quote=flame][quote=Rikachu]how does it let you get to mid faster[/quote]
if your stickies do less damage when you drop em on the ground immediately, you take less damage from them when you jump, meaning you have more health on your way to mid, potentially opening another jump.[/quote]
They didn't change self damage.
noscopes are officially a thing
noscopes are officially a thing
If it ain't broken don't fix it :/
The four classes in the 6s format were the most balanced of the 9, no idea why valve would mess around with their stocks.
If it ain't broken don't fix it :/
The four classes in the 6s format were the most balanced of the 9, no idea why valve would mess around with their stocks.
holy christ like 10 people replied the same thing.
ok im wrong about the rollouts, but either way it changes the pressure of midfights on every map since you no longer have to be so scared of demos lobbing stickies on you
scouts can take 4 stickies if they arent primed.
holy christ like 10 people replied the same thing.
ok im wrong about the rollouts, but either way it changes the pressure of midfights on every map since you no longer have to be so scared of demos lobbing stickies on you
scouts can take 4 stickies if they arent primed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8CKSZusE70
this change feels similar to the escape plan (minicrits) in that they did it needlessly because stickies were being used more than other weapons in pubs without any thought of how important this change would be to every gametype & the axtinguisher change kind of reinforces this idea
idk
i'd probably run targe w/ loose cannon if I was a demoman at this point
but hey, at least i can run the game at 200 fps now
this change feels similar to the escape plan (minicrits) in that they did it needlessly because stickies were being used more than other weapons in pubs without any thought of how important this change would be to every gametype & the axtinguisher change kind of reinforces this idea
idk
i'd probably run targe w/ loose cannon if I was a demoman at this point
but hey, at least i can run the game at 200 fps now
Valve may have been trying to help out competitive TF2, you know.
This may be a great thing for people watching streams, deciding whether or not to play 6s. Now it will be way easier to make off-uber pushes. This will keep the pace up and decrease the amount of stalemate time. Comp TF2 just got a lot more fun to watch.
Valve may have been trying to help out competitive TF2, you know.
This may be a great thing for people watching streams, deciding whether or not to play 6s. Now it will be way easier to make off-uber pushes. This will keep the pace up and decrease the amount of stalemate time. Comp TF2 just got a lot more fun to watch.
botmodethis change feels similar to the escape plan (minicrits) in that they did it needlessly because stickies were being used more than other weapons in pubs without any thought of how important this change would be to every gametype & the axtinguisher change kind of reinforces this idea
Wait did the escape plan nerf change anything? Pretty sure there was a lot of talk, and then nothing really happened.
[quote=botmode]this change feels similar to the escape plan (minicrits) in that they did it needlessly because stickies were being used more than other weapons in pubs without any thought of how important this change would be to every gametype & the axtinguisher change kind of reinforces this idea[/quote]
Wait did the escape plan nerf change anything? Pretty sure there was a lot of talk, and then nothing really happened.
so what the fuck class am i supposed to go when im mad that im losing pubs and wanna dump on everyone
so what the fuck class am i supposed to go when im mad that im losing pubs and wanna dump on everyone
turns out demo WAS op after all lol
turns out demo WAS op after all lol
i feel like everyones gonna be mad for a few weeks and then itll be okay and probably for the better
i feel like everyones gonna be mad for a few weeks and then itll be okay and probably for the better
wLIf it ain't broken don't fix it :/
The four classes in the 6s format were the most balanced of the 9, no idea why valve would mess around with their stocks.
It was though. The sticky launcher is a secondary weapon and it was overpowered that's why demo is limited to one, as well as slowing down the game. People keep forgetting about the grenade launcher like it doesn't exist.
[quote=wL]If it ain't broken don't fix it :/
The four classes in the 6s format were the most balanced of the 9, no idea why valve would mess around with their stocks.[/quote]
It was though. The sticky launcher is a secondary weapon and it was overpowered that's why demo is limited to one, as well as slowing down the game. People keep forgetting about the grenade launcher like it doesn't exist.
I think valve forgot about grenade launcher as well. You're now forced to use it for almost everything but the ammo is still the same, doesn't make any sense.
I think valve forgot about grenade launcher as well. You're now forced to use it for almost everything but the ammo is still the same, doesn't make any sense.
4812622http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/232130
demos still topdamaging
this is from two days ago.
pre-update
lol
[quote=4812622]http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/232130
demos still topdamaging[/quote]
this is from two days ago.
pre-update
lol