i'm literally sick to my stomach chambs is a cheater

It's one thing to develop cheats and hack the Source engine locally so you can send those exploits to Valve to get them fixed, or to detail the process for anticheat concerns.

It's another thing to knowingly cheat in DM servers.

It's another thing to knowingly cheat in DM servers and think it's okay.

http://logs.tf/profile/76561198058402566

looks like a day as scout in a lobby

show me a single lobby of yours where you got 60 frags and 550 dpm as scout.

http://logs.tf/751805?highlight=76561198058402566

That kinda looks like air's stats from when he rang for a silver HL match as scout, but not as good.

Definitely fishy though, especially given the ~600 hours

Hello I think I'd like to shed some light on another possible hacker or cheater.
http://logs.tf/profile/76561198016746867
http://steamcommunity.com/id/aridraconia/
http://www.ugcleague.com/players_page.cfm?player_id=76561198016746867
Has a VAC ban.
He is EXTREMELY fishy. From the logs that have a extended stats and accuracy stats, as sniper he has 60/60+ accuracy all the time

http://logs.tf/655060?highlight=76561198016746867
In this one he even as a 71 acc.

Compare that to a plat sniper like phaze who at his prime recently http://logs.tf/753100?highlight=76561197991974946 had only 52 acc.
We could take a look at a few others too http://logs.tf/753032?highlight=76561197990876261
Most plat sniper averaging around 30 to 50 (on their best day) acc.

Also he is not just some random person who I found becomes he looked fishy. I've know him for about 2 years maybe. When I used to talk to him and play with him he was around a group of people who had downloaded triggerbots, aimbots, and screwed around on alts. I used to play with him on a trade server, and even though it was a trade server and obviously not taken too seriously, his performance wasn't outstanding. Another thing is that he did play on my S11 Iron HL Team. He played soldier the 1st week (wasn't that great), and quit. Now he plays silver HL sniper going toe-to-toe with high silver/low gold snipers.

I could be wrong about all of this but I thought I'd give it a try anyway, cheers.

Can confirm this guy is very sketchy. I was the med on the other team in said logs. http://logs.tf/655060?highlight=76561198016746867 If i so much as walked through his sightline he hit his shot 100% of the time.

Reported him to ETF2L anti-cheat staff.
If you'd like to help me finding demos where he was playing that would be great.

I remember this guy! I used to go on that trade server occasionally, and yeah he was nothing special (trade server ayy). sucks if he's cheating tho, he was p cool albeit a little weird.

how

http://logs.tf/profile/76561198095893635

another one, 400 hours, no friends, doesnt use pistol and plays like a fucking retard.

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windows 1/11 or 2/11

I like this thread

played against him a few days ago, his aim looks really weird, cant tell if hack or really really reeeeaaaally low sens

Surf my tf2centers and find any that have me playing scout, I mean like anyone can go on an alt and play scout lol

http://logs.tf/profile/76561198095893635
he has the worst gamesense and movement

I wouldn't go off single logs alone- long term averages are fine but you can have ridiculous games. Also logs sometimes fuck up and give you weird numbers. Pretty sure Ive had a log with 1600 dpm on scout and one with 120% accuracy on sniper. If someone is getting these numbers every game though it's worth looking into.

http://logs.tf/682576?highlight=76561198044192979

How do you see the accuracy? I had a good sniper game the other day and now I'm curious.

Do some logs just not have it?

just frags/dpm should not deem someone a hacker. Maybe raise some suspicion but not condemn them. I would focus more on players with few hours, VAC bans, ..etc

http://logs.tf/746039?highlight=76561197985825892

http://logs.tf/718582?highlight=76561198102670339

Let's have all the scout mains post their logs.

In my opinion you'd have to be a pretty bad cheater to average 400 dpm as scout in tf2center lobbies like this guy does.

do i get a prize

http://logs.tf/532592?highlight=76561198008333616

highlander doesn't count soarex

http://logs.tf/746039?highlight=76561198036391020

can i submit someone else's dick in a dick measuring contest?

http://logs.tf/752568?highlight=76561198026627032

http://logs.tf/638237?highlight=76561198016746867

Good catch. 77% accuracy in that log. No doubt about it he's cheating

Another cheater not many accuracy stats from him, but found a couple sniper logs with 70%+ and scout 80%+.

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I would encourage both of you to try to find an STV through sizziling stats. Download it and review it, and then submit a ban request to TF2C or any other leagues they play in.

Yes, reference multiple logs. And also look at other players stats. For example if the other 3 scouts in the game are in the 50-70% range, and another scout is at 95% sure, you can be pretty damn sure the 95% guy is hacking. And I have seen multiple lobbies where DPM is off. DPM by itself shouldn't really be used to determine if someone is cheating. Some matches glitch out and you see everyones DPM is doubled. I had a couple games last week where somehow everyone managed negative DPM, and the lobby lasted like negative 20 minutes. :P I've never seen any hitscan accuracy logs that I felt were inaccurate. The one stat that is a joke is flares. It's common to see 600% accuracy, I believe due to it counting damage done per tick. So if someone takes 10 ticks of damage and you fired 2 flares, then you did 500% accuracy from a flare.

Since when is 75%+ accuracy fishy? I'm not trying to defend cheaters, but I'm actually confused. Just from pulling up some of my team's last stats before the end of our season, many top IM scouts are hitting accuracy that high. For example Sezco, a proven LAN Scout. How does 75%+ accuracy confirm that you're cheating? It's not uncommon for me to see Scouts hitting that high.

Edit: I suppose that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification Kaptain.

Aren't accuracy stats just (dmg done)/((shots fired)*(potential dmg per shot))? In that case aren't sniper logs accuracy basically the only thing you can trust fully because even if you aimbot you can't hit all the scattergun pellets from far enough away?
Pretty sure that's why you can get >100% accuracy on weapons because of splash damage/afterburn.

Accuracy stats is (shots hit)/(shots fired), it doesn't have anything to do with damage. You can get an accuracy of more than 100% with the flaregun (and flamethrowers, but you don't see that happening often because you tend to spam the flamethrower a lot) because you only shoot once and set the other player on fire, and every tick of afterburn is another "hit".

I'm pretty sure 75%+ accuracy is considered fishy when it's on sniper, since most (high level) snipers don't get over 50% often. 75%+ accuracy on scout happens quite often and isn't fishy really.

Wouldn't say 75%+ accuracy on sniper is fishy either. Played a few times against kensi and he got really high accuracy on sniper quite a few times. I could imagine Dennia does the same, since he just charges a shot and never shoots unless he gets a 150 dmg bodyshot :D