"Every country has the government it deserves."
--Joseph de Maistre

"Rulers who represent only a minority have to invent civilization in order not to perish.
The delegates of a majority, on the other hand, can be vulgar, rude, cruel, with impunity.
The greater the majority that supports him, the less cautious the ruler is, the less tolerant, the less respectful of human diversity.
When rulers deem themselves governors of all humanity, terror is near."
--Nicolás Gómez Dávila

jw shut up man

Death toll in Gaza just passed 28,000, with 67,000 wounded. Israeli officials told Palestinian civilians to seek shelter in Rafah, but then bombed Rafah, and are continuing to bomb it. Thought I would post an update.

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so true 4dolf

repaying my debt to the jewish people

#FreeIsrael

Death toll of Palestinians passed 42,000.

I am convinced that Oct. 7th was an inside job. Israel probably didn't directly cause the attack, but it was rather a "they let it happen" kind of situation (like Pearl Harbor). I think it's quite strange how Israeli forces in the southern part of Israel were instructed to stand down for 7 hours on the day of the attack (look it up). It's kind of like how all of the video cameras mysteriously stopped working when Jeffrey Epstein got killed.

Some quotes:

“Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China [Tiananmen Square], when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories.” Benjamin Netanyahu, November 24, 1989.

"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." Ariel Sharon, Prime Minister of Israel, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.

"We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves." Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.

"It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonization or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands." Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972.

"There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed." Golda Maier, Israeli Prime Minister, June 15, 1969.

"We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimetre of Eretz Israel... Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours." Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces - Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983.

Revelation 3:9
I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.

Jeremiah 3:34-36
You have blood on your hands!
It is the blood of poor, innocent people.
You did not catch them breaking into your house.
You killed them for no reason!
But still, you say, ‘I am innocent.
God is not angry with me.’
So I will also judge you guilty of lying, because you say,
‘I have done nothing wrong.’
You go from one place to another looking for help,
always changing your mind.
But Egypt will also disappoint you,
just as Assyria did.

you think pearl harbor was an inside job?

My middle school language arts teacher would regularly go on rants about how pearl harbor was an inside job. Not even that they let it happen to join the war, she was convinced that the US masterminded it and ordered the attack. She would regularly get sidetracked while teaching us about To Kill a Mockingbird and rant about it.

She did fervently believe however that 9/11 had no such fuckery going on.

Why has ISIS never attacked Israel?

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i like bad evil shit bc im fuarked up

hey i'm looking into getting into catholicism because i dont feel like getting a job rn any tips

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I agree with Jw. It's hard to believe they would unintentionally miss something like that, two years after massive upgrades to the barrier and with nine years of access to Hezbollah's communications with the walkie talkies and God knows what else. They've got spies literally everywhere all over the world and had the operation details weeks before it happened. https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-806634

Israel's been doing the whole 'provocation and revenge' strategy for decades, their military leadership says as much. They want excuses to dominate the region because they say that's the only way they'll feel safe, but to do that they need to create enemies, usually by committing war crimes. Oct 7th opened the door to solve the Palestinian issue, getting Hezbollah to react which gave them an excuse to solve their northern border issue, getting Iran to react giving them an excuse to finally eliminate the source of all resistance (after they got us to depose Saddam and funded ISIS-like groups to paralyze Syria with civil war).

glad to see these guys speaking out against israel. im sure it has nothing to do with any other beliefs they might hold about the jewish people

Anybody supporting the genocide of Palestinians is inhumane. The war and ongoing conflict is very complicated and an 10000 word essay wouldn't even cover 2% of the history.

What is happening right now in Gaza is ethnic cleansing and mass punishment of civilians by Israel. There is 0 excuses for there actions.

Free Palestine.

yea mossad and cia have never done fucked up shit anyway lol

Yeah, it's obvious.

There are 3 types of inside jobs: The first is where the inside-jobbing country will literally cause the attack/event. An example of this is the Gleiwitz incident. This type of inside job is where the term "false flag" comes from; historically ships would fly the flag of an enemy nation and attack their own ports if they wanted to start a war. Another example of this is 9/11. Another example is the JFK assassination. Another example is the anthrax scare after 9/11.

The second type of inside job is where the event is completely hoaxed; where it's made up out of thin air or literally "acted out" by operatives. An offshoot of this second type is where an event is overblown by the media on purpose in order to achieve some political aim. Bad things are happening all the time, so the media can simply choose one bad thing (e.g., a real terrorist event) but blow it way out of proportion, making people think the problem is much bigger than it actually is. The number of deaths from terrorism compared to the amount of money "fighting" terrorism is literally absurd and does not pass a cost-benefit test. Look up "availability bias" for more information.

The third type of inside job is where a government or inside-jobbing organization will provoke or be negligent on purpose in order to "cause" an attack to happen. Examples include the attack on Fort Sumter, Pearl Harbor, and the Oct. 7th Hamas attack. Again, nobody can answer why Israeili forces were ordered to stand down on Oct. 7th for no reason. With these types of attacks, governments will identify a threat in advance but decide not to prevent it or stop the attack.

As for Pearl Harbor, there are basically 2 questions that can help us determine whether it was an inside job (of the third type) or not.

1. Was the Japanese code cracked prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor?
   
2. Did the Japanese planes approaching Pearl Harbor maintain radio silence with one another?

If the answer to question 1 is "yes, the code was already cracked" and the answer to question 2 is "no, they did not maintain radio silence," then Pearl Harbor was an inside job. It means officials saw the attack coming and let it happen. As it turns out, it is 100%, without a doubt the case that the Japanese code was cracked (so we knew what they were saying to one another) and that the Japanese did not maintain radio silence. This is a summary of the case that Pearl Harbor was an inside job, and it's basically as strong of a case as the JFK assassination, 9/11 being an inside job, etc.

Can you elaborate on JFK and 9/11?

Actually please do not

this shit is so fun
The case for most alleged false flags / conspiracy theories almost always rests entirely on (mountains of) circumstantial evidence. In the case of JFK, this amounts to conflicting eyewitness reports, conflicting ballistics reports, conflicting autopsy reports, statements made by Oswald before his own untimely assassination, the strange circumstances of Jack Ruby's untimely psychosis and death, statements made by contributors to the Warren commission, the relationship between JFK and the CIA before his death, and the strange connections the CIA has to almost every one of the aforementioned items. As well as the refusal of the CIA to release certain sensitive files for over 30 years now after being specifically ordered to do so by congress.

I know a lot less about 9/11, and definitely way less than JW, but from what I know I think classifying it as a third order 'inside job' is more fair. It's a fact that Al Qaeda was one of several groups supported by the US throughout the 80s & 90s, it's a fact that Bush elected not to raise the terror threat level in the weeks & months before the attacks despite warnings to do so from, iirc, both the CIA and NSA. I think much more of the circumstantial evidence comes from the US's actions after the fact: invading Afghanistan despite the Taliban having basically no ties to Al Qaeda, Invading Iraq under provably false pretenses shortly thereafter, and Saudi Arabia suffering almost no consequences despite their much closer ties to the men that perpetrated the attacks in the first place.

Also let me point out that there are provable, concrete examples of the US government committing and planning false flags to start wars that did really happen. The two primary examples being the USS Maine sinking to start the Spanish-American War, and the Gulf of Tonkin incident justifying the huge expansion of US presence in Vietnam. Another interesting example of a plan that was never put into action includes Operation Northwoods, which was rejected by JFK as a justification for war with Cuba only about two years before his death in 1963.

conspiracy theories are just for fun though, the CIA is A-Okay in my book and I support the actions of all US Government personnel in their work to make the world a safer place for democracy!

THE USS LIBERTY JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE WTF IS GOING ON

Sure.

JFK is pretty clear cut. What I like to do when discussing these things is identify the strongest piece or couple of pieces of evidence and emphasize those.

With JFK, anyone can prove it was an inside job in literally 20 seconds. Here it is: After JFK was shot, it was widely reported that JFK's head moved forward after being shot. This would be consistent with Lee Harvey Oswald's position in a building behind JFK. The Zapruder film was seized after the assassination (by the FBI, of course) and hidden from the public.

When the film was finally released, however, you can see that JFK's head did not move forward when he was shot. His head was thrown backward, towards the seat of the car. This is literally physically impossible if it is true that JFK was shot from behind (where Oswald was). Remember: people shot from behind do not get thrown backwards, they get thrown forwards. I encourage you to look up the Zapruder film and watch it for yourself.

There are many other inconsistencies with the official JFK story, such as Lee Harvey Oswald's body double, the extremely convenient timing of the assassination (convenient for the CIA, of course), Oswald denying involvement in the attack and saying that he had been set up and being assassinated himself soon after, and so on. But the direction of JFK's head after being shot is so conclusive, and proves beyond any doubt that he was shot from the front (rather than from behind, where Oswald was), that it's really all you need to understand that it was an inside job.

I will also note that there are so many blatant inconsistencies and problems with the official JFK narrative that even many people who spend their time "debunking conspiracy theories" admit that there are serious problems with the official narrative. Same goes for Jeffrey Epstein, whose killing was so absurdly obvious that the same "debunkers" admit he didn't kill himself. This is also worth pointing out.

As for 9/11, the case is at least as strong as the JFK assassination. There are many angles to approach this from: A third building, Building 7, falling down for no reason on the day of the attack; the fact that WTCs 1 and 2 look exactly like controlled demolitions and fall uniformly; the fact that the owner of the WTCs took out an absurdly huge insurance plan shortly before the attack; the fact that melted steel was found at the crash site (yes, melted); and many more fascinating pieces of evidence. There are 3 pieces of evidence that are, in my view, the most convincing.

1. The "hijacked" planes flew wildly off course for over an hour without ever being intercepted by US military aircraft. This is so strange and is beyond any explanation. The US knew that the planes were flying low and wildly off course, knew they were headed towards major population centers, and did not send a single military aircraft to intercept them.
   
2. The passport of one of the supposed attackers was found blocks away from the crash site in NYC, unscathed, on the sidewalk, shortly after the attack. I am not making this up; this really happened and it was reported on the news. Tell me: how can a passport inside of one of the planes that hit the WTC not only (A) sustain no damage whatsoever from the attack, but also even more incredibly (B) end up blocks away from the crash site on the sidewalk on the day of the attack? How would you even explain that? The fact is, there is no explanation, and the passport was planted there because the US government knew in advance who the "attackers" were.
   
3. Finally, and most convincingly, there is not a single piece of footage of a plane hitting the Pentagon. None. Not a single second of footage. Does anyone else find this strange? Furthermore, there are pictures after the attack on the Pentagon, and no wing parts are on the ground. If a plane hit the Pentagon, its wings would have shattered upon contact. But not only are there no wing parts in any photos or videos following the attack, but there is literally 0 physical evidence that a plane actually hit the Pentagon. No videos, no white-painted metal plane parts, no anything. And you're telling me a random Arab is skilled enough to fly a passenger aircraft in a descending corkscrew towards the Pentagon without it ever being photographed or intercepted by US aircraft? Seriously?

That's the short case of 9/11. If you want more information on JFK and 9/11, I recommend the documentary 9/11: In Plane Sight (available for free online) and James Corbett's documentary Meet Lee Harvey Oswald, Sheep-Dipped Patsy (2013). James Corbett has also done a lot of work on 9/11.

If you want to be convinced that 9/11 was an inside job in 5 minutes, see this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCzy9i4tIHU

Also see this video: https://www.bitchute.com/video/wO5oJM8GjWA/

Anyone here discussing genocide honestly willing to state the self proclaimed goal of Hamas, hezbollah, Iran and its other proxies in relation to Israel and the Jewish people living there?

Leave all the deluded conspiracy theories at the doors, just understand what these groups have said time and time again about Israel and Jewish people, no grey area just what they literally stand for, and tell me you’re not an antisemite for justifying what these monsters stand for.

I’m not Jewish I’m not Israeli, but if you cheerlead Hamas as some kind of freedom fighter you either have a tiny brain, don’t care and like the status quo or you’re an antisemite.

JW I don’t know your age but I suspect you’re going to regret being so naive in hindsight in years to come. You live in a confirmation bias bubble searching and reading easily discredited garbage just to make your echo chamber louder.

easy to dunk on like any given sentence of that but calling hamas the "status quo" is really funny

Yeah I’m gonna choose to ignore Jw schizoposting and just focus on this

Why would anyone calling out Israel for perpetuating genocide have to defend Hamas or Hezbollah? Gaza is near 50% children and is being relentlessly bombed. Do you not see how that is unjustifiable?

Holy shit am I finally able to yap about cryptography on tftv.

Japanese naval codes (i.e. JN-25) were not readable prior to the attack. They were "solved" in the sense that the structure of the code was known, requiring two codebooks that perform grouping and additive operations (will ignore details for now, you can look at this if interested). But without these codebooks it was not functionally readable.

Diplomatic codes were cracked by this time (PURPLE). So the White House certainly knew an attack was coming (it has been a while but I believe primary suspicion was against Macarthur who was not in Hawaii) but there was no clear indication in decoded PURPLE messages that the target was Pearl Harbor*. The infamous 14 part declaration delivered immediately prior to the attack was also not decoded, written down, and delivered in its entirety until about an hour after the attack (and if you read it doesn't really declare an attack officially in Western fashion, just cuts off negotiations. Maybe people who were more used to Japanese sensibilities would know that is equivalent to launching an attack, but still there is no mention of Pearl Harbor. You can read it here.)

Also from a conspiracy theory perspective the motivation to let the attack occur is unclear; wanting to escalate a war with Japan by giving up a critical military keypiece is certainly...a strategy. American neutrality was already a farce by this point in the war with Roosevelt's order to basically shoot to kill German U-Boats so on that front it's not like they need any excuse as well.

*There was correspondence between a spy at Pearl Harbor who reported to the consulate, who would then report to Tokyo. If you know anything about Hawaii there is a large Japanese population there, so his presence is not unusual by any means. One important message that was missed was a request about the location and # of warships at Pearl Harbor. Given the volume of messages being decoded and the people who were actually able to see such messages (notably not the military commander of Pearl Harbor iirc) along with other fuckery that was going on in the cryptography branch it's likely that this was just bad oversight.

not only is there video of it happening so you just lied about #3 but theres literally photos of the wreckage at the pentagon matching the exact same plane that was involved within the hijacking so why lie for fun

Except it is known that the IJN was able to skirt past Americans specifically because they maintained complete radio silence (as dictated by Yamamoto) and followed a route that was out of the way of American bases. Even so, it was due to radio deception by the Japanese leading up to the war and the dismissal of a Oahu-based radar which picked up the approaching planes that allowed the Japanese to get so close without being spotted. We know this because of information + PoWs obtained during the war as well as information being decrypted and translated during the postwar period. You can watch YouTube videos online of Japanese pilots stating exactly how they prepared for and attacked Pearl Harbor.

Also, as previously stated, claiming Americans had already cracked the Japanese’s code prior to Pearl Harbor is only partially true. There was no singular code during the war; the Japanese were aware of American/UK code breaking abilities and took great care in utilizing several different codes throughout the conflict. Americans were able to crack many of their codes such as Purple, but many remained unsolved at the time of the attack, such as JN-40.

US was already involved in Europe in many ways to the point Roosevelt had even implemented a “shoot on sight” order for US ships due to U-Boat aggression and had the lend-lease agreement going for almost a year at this point. It is ridiculous to suggest that the United States would intentionally sacrifice one of their most vital tools for winning a war (several naval bases in the pacific (Guam, Philippines, and wake island were also targeted in the attack)) just to enter said war. Especially when the tripartite pact was essentially a defensive agreement, meaning that the US orchestrating an attack on themselves would not only jeopardize their abilities to wage a naval war with no guarantees of actually entering world war 2 in the first place.