yes

here we go again

Welcome to ETF2L, the league where everything's made up and the rules don't matter

wah wah wah

aparently an admin put their mid team in div3 last season simply cause they could (and iirc without really consulting their team either), leaving multiple far better teams in mid while they won a single map all season

those were my bestest most fine weapon(s)....xaxaxaaxa

EDIT : how about play game instead of complain....complain wont make winning for you...now a day it very very obvious who care game and who care about complain...just saying...

but where are the match pages for that team? wait....

aoshi was asking other teams to switch the place with italians so i reckon none of them took up the offering

I didn't read anything in this thread besides the title but I had a cool idea.

We should make the ETF2L and RGL admins fight to the death in a gladiator match and the winner gets to be in charge of all the leagues.

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199042194509 is an alt of https://etf2l.org/forum/user/130632/

gypsysh / 76561198211616811 is an alt of http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198297034178

Yes, I got my team in div3 last season because there was a spot open and literally every better mid team declined the offer to be moved up. All of the team members were asked about it and no one refused.

We knew it probably wouldn't be a good season for us but decided to bite the bullet. You wouldn't blame the gay jail for leaving all the better teams in div1 either.

I wasn't just banned on ETF2L. I also received a steam ID ban on all serveme.tf server (while paedos could still play on them) and an ETF2L admin contacted other leagues (RGL/UGC) to get me mirror banned. While someone writing this (https://imgur.com/a/7hH4gAW) on the same discord server while an admin reacted received no ban.

These people are clearly just trying to be shitters and should learn their actions have consequences.
I feel if users of your platform are concerned w the behaviour of other users on your platform that should fall within the scope of ETF2L.

clearly stuff like this should be out of line

etf2l admins dont care about racist or homophobic shit , me and nubbi were in mumble tryna get an old etf2l roster back and we see etf2l admin aleskee in the mumble channel above, we join it and he calls nubbi a ni**er out of nowhere. i was shocked seeing as the dude is an etf2l admin enforcing these rules and here he is saying it like its nothing. i msg aoshi about the situation on discord and he sends me this

https://i.imgur.com/TdMDp4A.png

https://i.imgur.com/5rYOqpb.png

so i guess u can call ur friends racist and homophobic shit but only if u dont mean it lmfao

Let me start this response of by saying I'm disappointed that you didn't even take the time to await a response on your latest response in the admin request. Furthermore, you didn't present all the evidence you present in this thread as I will point out below. I'm always open to discuss further but this is not the way to go about it.

You provided none of the Imgur screenshots in your initial report, nor did you mention you found the game through our discord. You didn't mention that you found the game on our discord server until your first response to my initial response at 14:45. I wasn't home at the time and I guess since I didn't respond within 5 minutes a public post had to be made.

This is incorrect. He asked us whether he would be punished if he reuploaded a video for which another player got a warning initially. The obvious response here was yes, he proceeded to re-upload the video either way and the rest is history.

I admit we could have dealt with this case in a more suiting way. As opposed to common believe we are not to proud to admit mistakes another example of which is the case below.

A negative comment is grossly understating what happened, both nyar and the admin team have talked about this in private and sorted it out.

As an ending note I'll state I'm more than happy to continue this further in the admin request you made but the false information being spread here really warranted a public response.

ETF2L having double standards about stuff is virtually nothing new, I remember a season where a Fresh Meat team with admins on it each had a letter of the n-word in their names so they could form it on the scoreboard. The screenshot of it seems to be gone by now but back then their stance was that they """technically""" didn't use a slur since the scoreboard had to be in the right order for it to be.

edit: I can't read since the guy mentioned it in his post, but the response to it is still silly

bring back bloodis and menty

this wouldn't have happened if menty was head admin

this wouldn't have happened if menty was head admin

especially in lower divs people get shuffled between/kept in divisions against their will all the time tho (plenty cases just this season), was there any good reason for the handling of div3 last season other than certain teams threatining to disband right away if they arent allowed to sandbag, the fact that people are allowed to get away making claims like these and still get their will is ridiulous

it wasnt me who made the admin request but i reckon you could continue it there

this wouldn't have happened if menty was head admin

man the two regions are just polar opposites aren't they

https://i.imgur.com/3zmPMqQ.png

I do sympathise with the job league admins have to do, however, after the pred/degu affair it was clear that a lot of these problems would emerge. The ETF2L rule update read as holy crusade to police all discrimination across the internet, and as we said at the time, the league was unrealistic in their scope and it's become almost impossible to consistently enforce.

I understand the desire for a broad T&Cs that allows admin discretion, but it has just increased the instances of double standards and favouritism recently; although these seem to have been mostly centralised around certain individual admins. We are also more reliant on public outrage/ witch hunts than ever.

Overall though I think ETF2L has done a decent job in recent years. They could certainly standardise their decision making a little better, but I do not desire the overreach we have seen from RGL.

the only rule youll ever need

we have to keep in mind that etf2l admins are average people just like you and I

let's also remember that the average person is a fucking retard and that they can't help but show clear bias when put in any kind of position of power

Makes sense to not have rules enforced outside official ETF2L stuff such as twitter

imo: etf2l admins don't give 2 shits about being offensive, but if they don't pretend like they do all the sensitive children are going to raid ETF2LHQ and hang them with their furry costumes because some guy didn't get banned for saying the nword or calling someone who got raped for the 123425 time dumb